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Posted: Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 07:55 AM UTC
I found this over at Time Lines. I'm betting we could add to the list.
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Posted: Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 07:14 PM UTC
Do you mean that Battle of the Bulge with its M47s and M24s According to the liner notes it is History Recreated.
But OK lets give their dues, it is still a good film and there were not to many King Tigers running around in 1965 (or today) waiting to in some film.

cheers
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Hi, Al Just about any historical film made in the last hundred years! How about "They Died With Their Boots On" with Errol Flynn as Gen. Custer? Then there is McHale's Navy! Now there is History for you!
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2008 - 04:53 AM UTC

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Hi, Al Just about any historical film made in the last hundred years! How about "They Died With Their Boots On" with Errol Flynn as Gen. Custer?


Far, far worse than that is "Custer of the West" with Robert Shaw, yes, he of Quint (Jaws) fame, as Custer.
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2008 - 05:27 AM UTC
They missed "1984" and "1941".

I also tend to question the whole validity of the Star Wars movies. I've yet to see historical documentation that star wars took place a long time ago. And was it really a war or just an undelcared "police action"?
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2008 - 08:59 AM UTC

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Hi, Al Just about any historical film made in the last hundred years! How about "They Died With Their Boots On" with Errol Flynn as Gen. Custer?


Far, far worse than that is "Custer of the West" with Robert Shaw, yes, he of Quint (Jaws) fame, as Custer.



Wasn't Shaw the German tank cmdr in Battle of the Bulge?
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2008 - 09:02 AM UTC
Inaccurate?

Aces High
Von Richthofen and Brown

Just about any film suffers from some form of "Hollywood Dramatization." These two I have listed here suffer the worst. Aircraft and character wise.
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Flyboys

Pearl Harbor

10,000 BC

To name a few.

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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2008 - 10:48 AM UTC
Any movie involving the American military .
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2008 - 11:06 AM UTC

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Any movie involving the American military .

Blackhawk Down, We Were Soldiers? Pretty close to the written history.
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2008 - 12:19 PM UTC

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Hi, Al Just about any historical film made in the last hundred years! How about "They Died With Their Boots On" with Errol Flynn as Gen. Custer?


Far, far worse than that is "Custer of the West" with Robert Shaw, yes, he of Quint (Jaws) fame, as Custer.



Wasn't Shaw the German tank cmdr in Battle of the Bulge?



Yes, and "Squad Leader Skipper" in the Battle of Britain.
(No, I didn't know that off the top of my head, I looked him up at Internet Movie Database
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Do you mean that Battle of the Bulge with its M47s and M24s According to the liner notes it is History Recreated.
But OK lets give their dues, it is still a good film and there were not to many King Tigers running around in 1965 (or today) waiting to in some film.



If they'd taken the trouble to get the paint jobs right, that would've at least gone some way towards mitigating the glaring anachronisms.

- Steve
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Any movie involving the American military .

Blackhawk Down, We Were Soldiers? Pretty close to the written history.



Except ‘we Were Soldiers’ missed out an entire crucial piece of the whole engagement - the ambush of 2/7 Cav on the march to Albany; considering this is a major part of the book, it’s ommission from the film is puzzling, although one can argue that the film audience would not be interested in having the movie end on a ‘downer’. However, there is not so much as a mention of this episode in the end credits - arguably, the amubush of 2/7 Cav was as much a disaster/bloodbath/clusterfunt as the previous part of the battle.

Also, WWS ends with a typical Hollywood ‘assault’ on the PAVN lines and the Bad Guy’s HQ is over-run by revenge seeking SkyTroopers.
Never happened.

So, ‘pretty close’ to written history becomes ‘not even close’...

‘BlackHawk Down’? Too long, too loud, too many Bad Guys lining up to get shot down like tin targets in a carnival shooting gallery (the Bad Guys can’t have been that stupid since they royally kicked US butt)

$0.02

On the whole, putting the words ‘historical accuracy’ and ‘movie’ in the same sentence is a just a waste of breath...
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How about the Rat patrol? Didn't the germans use U.S. equipment , M2/3 halftrack?
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How about the Rat patrol? Didn't the germans use U.S. equipment , M2/3 halftrack?



I believe so, yes.

Also "Combat": I recently picked up the final series of this on DVD (the one that was shot in colour) and the armour featured in that is anachronistic as well - at least in the few episodes I've dipped into so far.

But perhaps even worse - the countryside (supposedly northern France) is so glaringly southern California that it takes your breath away!!

- Steve
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‘BlackHawk Down’? Too long, too loud, too many Bad Guys lining up to get shot down like tin targets in a carnival shooting gallery (the Bad Guys can’t have been that stupid since they royally kicked US butt)



Depends on how you define "butt kicking".

In terms of casualties, the Somali militias suffered FAR more KIA than the US forces did. The exact numbers escape me, but I believe the stats were somewhere around several hunded and around 20 respectively.

You could even argue that under the circumstances, the Americans got off fairly lightly.

- Steve
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Posted: Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 08:24 PM UTC

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Any movie involving the American military .



Like U-571?

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Posted: Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 08:35 PM UTC

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Any movie involving the American military .



Like U-571?

David



And what exactly was wrong with U-571 then????
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And what exactly was wrong with U-571 then????



Hollywood managed to lose one of the major participants in the real capture - the Royal Navy

http://uboat.net/boats/u110.htm

And they bit where Jon Bon Jovi got decapitated was removed from the film, which took all the fun out of it for me.

David
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And what exactly was wrong with U-571 then????



Hollywood managed to lose one of the major participants in the real capture - the Royal Navy

http://uboat.net/boats/u110.htm

And they bit where Jon Bon Jovi got decapitated was removed from the film, which took all the fun out of it for me.

David



Ahhhh - i understand now

never let the truth get in the way of a good movie!!
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Inaccurate?

Aces High
Von Richthofen and Brown

Just about any film suffers from some form of "Hollywood Dramatization." These two I have listed here suffer the worst. Aircraft and character wise.



Aces High had a few impressive scenes, like the one where David Woods' character dies, but way too many fossilised 60s cliches about WW1 and a ridiculous ending. RC Sherriff's original play (set very much on the ground) was dramatised on the BBC about 20 years ago (with Timothy Spall!) and was much better.

David
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I'll have to add PATHFINDERto the list.

10 things I "learned" from this:

1. Vikings dressed like Nazgul.
2. Vikings brought horses across the Atlantic to North America
3. Vikings took 4 year old boys on raiding expeditions across the Atlantic.
4. A 4 year old is more likely to survive a shipwreck than seasoned sailors.
5. Horsemanship skills can be learned prior to the age of 4 and be retained for 15 years without seeing another horse.
6. Swordsmanship can be learned prior to the age of 4, as well, and be maintained for 15 years without further tutelage.
7 .The Rocky Mountains are on the east coast of North America.
8. Even after spring comes early, it's still deep winter. (Okay, that one's almost true.)
9. Spanish moss grows in the middle of winter somewhere north of New England.
10. A man, working alone can dig a pit filled with sharpened stakes and camoflage it in a matter of minutes using only his hands (and maybe a sword.)
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Fly Boys
U-571
Saving Private Ryan

All disgraceful.
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Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 - 08:11 AM UTC

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They missed "1984" and "1941".

I also tend to question the whole validity of the Star Wars movies. I've yet to see historical documentation that star wars took place a long time ago. And was it really a war or just an undelcared "police action"?



You know that "1984" is a "what if" film about a could have been precent / future.
Accusing it of being historicaly incorrect ( vehicles etc.) is a bit strange since it´s a purely fictional film.
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