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IL2 Forgotton battles
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2005 - 05:33 AM UTC
Hi all!

I hope the Armorama squadron idea didn't died!

I managed to get my PC online today and I would be happy to make a test dogfight in the near future!

Are there any IL2 FB pilots out there?

Procrazzy, Dogload, Jurjen and Tigeriv are you still ready to fly?

Everyone still interested should post a message here with the version of the game he's using. It seems IL2 Forgotten Battles was the best option so far. We have to install the same version to get online together I think.

I'm not a PC specialist (I usually work on apple computers) but I'll do the server if no one else jumps in!

It would be cool if we could have at least 4 participants so we could make a simple 2 vs 2 dogfight... but the more we are the more fun it will be! I myself have limited flying skills and never flew online! So beginners are welcome!

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2005 - 10:01 PM UTC
Hey Ted, just got back to work after extended holiday to La France. From glorious sunshine and hot weather, complete with electrical storms, back to dreary, lukewarm sunshine, not very hot weather and rainstorms.
What an anti-climax!!!

I'm up for having an online fly... I'll have to change the game I've got loaded. Let's know what version has been finally decided upon.
Cheers,
Mark
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2005 - 11:18 PM UTC
Hi Mark!

I knew you would came back these days so I finally decided to have my PC go online! It was hard work!

The version we will use has not be decided yet but I think IL2 FB was the most used by everyone!

I have IL2 FB, Aces Expension Pack as well as Pacific Fighters, so I'm open to all versions! But I think we should all use the same "clean" version to avoid problems. If we have to download each update of the game it would make things more complicated! After all we just want to try some dogfight first to see if it works...

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 07:18 AM UTC
I've got IL-2 FB + AEP + Pacific Fighters. I don't know if that means that I can't play anyone who has just IL2 FB.

Never played any of it online but I used to love flying the IL2 around in Fighter Ace.

Paul
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 09:17 AM UTC
Hi Paul!

Good to have you with us!

Basically, we are all beginners and never flew online. Except Dogload I think. Wich makes him our squadron leader!

We choose to play with IL2 FB because it's the version the most people have here... But if all participants have Pacific fighters it's even better!

As soon as everybody is listed, I'll suggest we all make a clean install of the version we have choosed to play. I don't want to deal with updates! It's too complicated! I think the version MUST be the same for all if we want to play online together, so we have to make it simple.

I will start sending some PMs to the guys who answered this thread earlier this week-end to see who is still interested.

Stay tuned!

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 08:16 PM UTC

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Basically, we are all beginners and never flew online. Except Dogload I think. Wich makes him our squadron leader!



WHAT!!!

No way can I be given a position of such responsibility, as I am an unreliable drunk! :-) Well perhaps not, but I just can't seem to fly in formation, and have a tendency to spin-out at times...
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005 - 12:15 AM UTC
Hi all!

For now the following members did show interest in doing some dogfighting with IL2:

Procrazzy (IL2 FB + PF)
Dogload (IL2 FB + PF)
Jurjen (IL2 FB)
Tigeriv (IL2 FB)
Ptruhe (IL2 FB + AEP + PF)
TedMamere (IL2 FB + AEP + PF)

I suggest you all post a simple message to show you are still interested and what day of the week would be best for giving it a try.

As everybody has IL2 FB, I think it's the version (clean install) we will have to use.

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005 - 12:24 AM UTC
Hi again!

I would like to play IL2 FB!

My favorite day would be Friday evening or Saturday Morning (Europe).

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005 - 02:22 AM UTC
Jean-Luc,

Can I install a clean copy of IL2 in a different directory and still keep my IL2+AEP+PF in it's original directory.

I'm on CST in the US which I think is GMT-6 so I'll still be working. Saturday morning might be possible if I stay up a little late. Do you have MSN messenger?

If it's just you and I then we could just try the PF which I have at 3.04 or whatever the latest is.

Paul
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005 - 05:21 AM UTC
Correction i do not have AEP
I have limeted online experiance (2 weeks), that is about 3 hours :-) . I want to play FB but i have the v1.22 so i can not be the server (i can still play on games of a lower version). I am currently on holiday in spain but i get back on Tuesday and i go to Jersey on Wednesday so i am only open for Tuesday evening. I am free from 31st of August, after around 6.30pm when i should have done my homework (except weekends obvously)
We should all say our ubi.com account name is so we can identify each other in the sky, mine is 'Cloud_Phantom' :-)
I also recomend that it is a private dogfight. This means that there is a password if you want to play, so only people who the server wqants to play can.

cheers

Philip
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005 - 06:17 AM UTC
guess who owns a copy of IL2 forgotten battles! admittedly its still in the cellophane wrapper cos i got the first game at the same time and my computer had a hard time playing it, so i just kind of lost interest, ill give them another go though, an armorama squadron sounds like fun. jean-luc, was your input into the game to make sure a rata cant be shot down by a handsome, devil may care, ace pilot in his 109D? :-)
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005 - 06:43 AM UTC

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jean-luc, was your input into the game to make sure a rata cant be shot down by a handsome, devil may care, ace pilot in his 109D?



Hi Baron! This way we could be sure who's the best fighter! :-)

Glad you joined in! But there's still a lot of work ahead to make this work! But I'm confident!

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 08:51 PM UTC
Hello chaps-

please include me in roster. As I've said before I'll go with whichever version of the game is decided upon.
Unfortunately the Friday/Saturday timing is awkward for me, but hey, that's my problem- I'll get there if and when I can:)
Cheers,
Mark
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Posted: Friday, September 02, 2005 - 06:29 PM UTC
yo,

I would dig to play for/with an Armorama Squadron, I currently only have IL2 FB V1.0 [patches take to long to download :-( ]
and should hopefully have pacific fighters by mid september.

I'm up for whatever one you guys want, maybe we should alternate between FB & PFevery week or something?

However I've never played online before, I can fly alrightish, that is when I have not stalled or am not in a spin or it does n't say Pilot: Killed in blue on the right of me screen!

what all do I have to do to play online? must i register with ubi.com, if so do how many details do they need?

if we got enough folks, we could try crewing 2 Mitchell's or Havoc's against a few fighters?

Friday night and Saturday is best for me, but i'm going to be pretty busy up till december, with my finals etc. So I will only be able to get a few sorties in now and again. But come 2006 I should be in res at university, and online 24/7.

if we get this squadron off the ground (no ambiguity implied), then we need a classy name to truly capture our "unique" flying abilities. how 'bout Armorama's Flying Circus? or the A-Wing, or The Paper Plane Jockeys? sad naming attempts I know, but just to get the ball rolling.....come on roll damn it!....

Erik Over and Out.
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Posted: Friday, September 02, 2005 - 07:12 PM UTC
Hi Erik!

Welcome on board the "Armorama Flying Circus"...

We did not played at all yet... I must say I'm busy too currently and this as slipped off my mind! sorry guys...

I would say we delay the online flying until january 2006

But I can try to fly online with one or two of you guys to see how it works and if I can do the server. I don't even know if my computer works for that...

You mentionned registering at Ubi.com... Is that necessary for us to play online? Could someone give us more infos about that? Nothing is mentionned about that in the IL2 FB manual...

Dogload, maybe we could try to get online together one time to make a test? Remember, you are the only one with some experience!

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 01:03 AM UTC
I have just retured from a furious online dogfight over russia. If you want to go online you first have to create an online account with ubi.com. Then you go into start, click 'programmes', click on 'ubi.com' and then on 'play online!'. For whoever wannt to be the server, you can create a password function so soly people you want to play can play.
If you are allready registerd on ubi.com, waht is your username, so whe can identify eachother in the air.

cheers

Philip
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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 02:29 AM UTC
Hi Phillip!

I don't have any account but will get one!

You say you are playing... but with what version and who is the server? And when are you online?

I'm curious to see if I can fin you! Do you play red or blue?

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 02:43 AM UTC
Normally i play blue in a Bf-109 g-14 with gun pods with british markings. HOwever if there are many blue playyers and a few red pllayers i can play as red. My name is 'Cloud_Phantom' :-) I have tried bieng the server but i do not think it works because no one ever plays. I have v.1.22 so if i am the server only people with the same version can play. However i can still play on games with v.1.00. Mabye we can have a special match tommorow only for armorama members, that would be cool. If anyone want to play, but are beginners i reccomend the La-7. It is very fast and fairly mauverable. THe P-51 is very agile, but has weak firepower. They are both easy to ake off in. The Bf-109 is quite fast, the G-14 has MW50, a VERY poweful booster, and you can fit it with powerful cannons. It is ahowever quite difficult to get used to. The best plane is probbably the Me-262 because it is fastest proper plane and has 4 30m cannons. It has ok air manuverbilit but very poor ground amuverbility. It can be tricky beccause the engins can catch fire. I hope that sohort summary has been a help to any armorama members who can not work out what plane to fly!

cheers

Philip
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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 04:30 AM UTC
I play sturmovik too! Is already too late for me to join in?

I have FB+AEP+PF, but now only FB+AEP (v2.04) installed because adding PF slowed down loading times considerably. (I'm plannig to install PF as a stand-alone later, I could play that too...)

You're playing with FB, clean install (v1.0)? Is it possible for me to install another copy of FB on my computer for playing online?

I just registered an account at ubi.com. My nick was already taken, so I'm Emeritus86.

I haven't any online games yet, can you give me some tips?
When are going to fly, then? I can fly pretty much anytime (daytime, our computer is in our living and my parents want to sleep at night...), my highschool ended and I didn't get to a university and I'm haven't got a job (yet...). Are going to fly missions or just dogfight?

What realism settings are you going to use? Full realism or something less unforgiving (considering the fact that we're pretty much beginners)

About those planes, beginners shouldn't choose jets. I still have trouble keeping them flying properly. The engines on ME262 are very sensitive and require carfefull a throttle hand. The engines burst to flames if you don't handle the throttle smootly enough. The somewhat limited manouverability of me262 makes it unsuitable for dogfighting. If you loose your main advantage, speed, then your cannon fodder. Keep your speed and altidute ant you're able to make devastating attacks. Zoom in, let the four 30mm's do their job, and then dissappear back to the higher altitudes (P-47 is similar, it's better for "zoom 'n' boom" than for dogfighting). Just remember to keep the throttle at around 80-90% when in combat so you won't leave those exhaust trails that ruin your stealth! Landings also require care, I still haven't mastered them with Me-262's. You need a long approach, making you vulnerable while landing.

I think that BF-109 is a suitable plane for beginners. Just handle it carefully on the ground and in take-offs (the landing gear is not very wide), and you'll be fine (I don't remember if FB had those K-versions. They have an awesome boost, which can destroy the engine if used improperly, though). LA-7 is great for beginners too, just don't use the "spray and pray" tactic, it runs out of ammo quick. Mustangs on the other hand have generous amounts of ammo for their 6 .50 MG's.

Focke-wulfs are great too, but they require carefull piloting. They have a nice wide landing gear and awesome armament. The bad thing about them is their tendency to stall and spin almost without a warning if pushed too far. The affective control surfaces makes you want to turn too tightly, resulting in ugly accidents.

2nd edit: I wouldn't recommend Fw-190's to beginners. They certainly require an experienced pilot. Just tried them. Bf-109 is much more forgiving and more simple to fly. You can feel when the plane is about to stall, focke wulf's are "snappy". I prefer Bf-109's.

Edit: I just tried installing another copy of FB, no luck. The setup wants to unistall the merged FB+AEP before installing anything. Do I just have to uninstall the whole smash? Doesn't matter, though. I HAD a BF-109 single player campaign, before I accidentally deleted it. I was quite pissed off. 55 completed missions, all gone.
Btw, if you're going to start flying in January 2006, then I can't participate, because of the mandatory military service, beginning at the start of January. I try with all my might to get out of there in 6 months. Shouldn't be too hard, I'm not that athletic!
A minimum of 6 months without modeling! That's going to be hard. At least we're paid. Not that much, but paid anyway.
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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 05:15 AM UTC

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I would say we delay the online flying until january 2006



Why?

cheers

Philip
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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 07:08 AM UTC
... Ok Phillip! Forget these words! :-) ... and thanks for the infos!
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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 11:10 AM UTC
Mabye we can have an armorama only dogfight tommorow

cheers

Philip
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Posted: Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 05:14 AM UTC
Hi Philip!

I created my account, reinstalled a "clean" version of IL2FB un upgraded it to 1.22... and then flew around on different servers and found you in some sort of "Dracula" map with a lot of castles I was the guy always turning around called "Spogek"... :-)

I think I'll have to make some flight training! I only managed to hit a He 111 and was downed several times... it's quite hard to hit a plane in fact ... at least for me.

One important question: do you play with or without cockpit?

If we want to do an Armorama server, we should all install IL2FB V.1.22 and find a common date to play... Some minimum scenario would be also not bad for the futur.

See you in the Russian skies...

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Friday, September 09, 2005 - 07:46 PM UTC
blimey, i need to download +/- 120mb of patches now! created my account though. will have to sweet talk my buddy at the internet cafe now!

can i play online with my 56k modem?
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Posted: Saturday, September 10, 2005 - 10:39 PM UTC
I do not know what a 56K modem is but i do know that if you have broadband, you should be OK.
I propose a battle next Friday.

cheers

Philip