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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 12:57 AM UTC
Wow! Galeng naman yan GI! I like that technique! Thanks!
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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 01:07 AM UTC

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What AB are you using?



Badger 175 po.


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Ok, with regards to paint transeffering, try mo na lang magmix sa AB container itself. Nagamit ako siphon type (yung may straw) ewan ko lang kung applicable to sa gravity fed at side feed. Ang ginagawa ko muna is to add the dominant color then drop by drop yung mixing color until it matches.

Try this technique: (enamels gamit ko nito)

1. Add thinner to the mixing pallete
2. Add the dominant color
3. Add the mixing color
4. Mix together and dilute with thinner
5. Pour EVERYTHING to the bottle

Ok, diluted sya? Wait for an hour or so until some thinner dry up. I've tried this once on my red-brown paint and it looks A-ok. Kailangan mo nga lang ng patience dito. That way, di masasayang yung paint, thinner nga lang problema mo.

Hope this helps

PS, do not return used paint unless you'll use that bottle as another color (e.g red, tapos ginawa mong red brown yung whole container.)



The mixing isn't the problem itself kasi.... since I still don't mix colors for now. What my problem is yung paglipat nga nang paint from bottle A to bottle B. Most of the paint just sticks to the wall of the bottle.... tapos lilinisan mo na ng thinner. Sayang diba? This was never a problem for me kasi dati pag brush painting lang.... straight from the bottle ko na lang dini-dip yung brush. Pag mix ng colors naman madali lang mag-mix maski sa isang tansan or yung film containers lang pwede na. Pero pag airbrushing you need some amount of paint (approx. 1/4 ng bottle) para mahigop ng siphon yung paint. Tapos after painting pag hindi mo naubos you have to pour it somewhere and clean the bottle para makagamit ka nga ng ibang color.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 01:17 AM UTC

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Here's something I learned from "Beakman's World" (or "Newton's Apple" - can't remember. Many moons ago):



As you will see, the stick forms a path for the liquid to flow on to (something to do with surface tension - forgot my physics). Thus, the liquid will not cascade on the source bottle's undersides but on the stick to the other bottle. If your hands are steady, you won't experience any spillage.



That's what I do.... but still meron pa rin naiiwang paint sa first bottle.... lalo na pag hindi gaanong diluted yung paint mixture. It's a good technique though to avoid spillage.


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As for the paint jars, if your AB is Gunze, the Gunze paint bottles can fit on the Gunze's color bottle cap with siphon. For other ABs, there are two different sized bottles with screw caps available at National Bookstore, art section. These cost around P20 IIRC.



Yan! Yan ang hanap ko! Wala akong mahanap na ganyan sa NB ATC.... hmn... ma-try nga sa Festi....


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Another is to rig up a "quick install" paint jar by using clear film cannisters, some brass or metal tubes, solder or epoxy putty. Just make two holes on the film's cap (one small one for the air's entry, one big one which the siphon assembly will be placed). (see diagram below)



The siphon is plastic tubing which is available at most hardware stores or you can just transfer the siphon from the original jar to the homemade one. This little project I got from IPMS-Sweden I think.



Hmn, mukhang okay ito for acrylic paints.... pwede rin kaya 'to sa lacquers? Hindi ba matutunaw yung plastic? Another friend of mine suggested din yung mga empty Gerber bottles.... sino jan may baby? Penge ng Gerber....
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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 01:36 AM UTC
Siphon Feel to Gravity Feed Conversion - I'll try this myself thanks to GI's help. Di ko lang sure kung gagana nga.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 01:38 AM UTC

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Hmn, mukhang okay ito for acrylic paints.... pwede rin kaya 'to sa lacquers? Hindi ba matutunaw yung plastic? Another friend of mine suggested din yung mga empty Gerber bottles.... sino jan may baby? Penge ng Gerber....



Meron isa sa atin. Just wait for about 7-9 months #:-)
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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 01:44 AM UTC

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Meron isa sa atin. Just wait for about 7-9 months #:-)



Uy, mukang gagawa ka tonight a.... ehehehehe :-)
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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 02:19 AM UTC

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Uy, mukang gagawa ka tonight a.... ehehehehe :-)



Not me. Hahahaha....
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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 09:52 AM UTC
Cbrain: If that's the case, it's a simple matter of just adding the appropriate thinner (i.e. enamel for enamel, etc.), shaking it, and pouring it into the new bottle, using a stick to wipe the remaining paint to the other bottle. Besides, paint consistency for ABs is rougly 50:50 paint and thinner mixture, so if it's thin it's ok.

Gunze ABs are available at STC. Two flavors - the Pro-Spray series (which are SA-type ABs) and the Procyon series (DA-type ABs).
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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 12:04 PM UTC
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Hmn, mukhang okay ito for acrylic paints.... pwede rin kaya 'to sa lacquers? Hindi ba matutunaw yung plastic? Another friend of mine suggested din yung mga empty Gerber bottles.... sino jan may baby? Penge ng Gerber....



... may kasamang thick foil from powdered milk cans and used diaper camo netting yeba!!!
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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 04:55 PM UTC
I passed by Nat'l. Bookstore in Festival a while ago (lunch) and asked about those paint bottles..... 'lo and behold! They have it.... but at what cost? PhP 96.00.... DAMN! It's an empty bottle pero mas-mahal pa siya sa isang bote ng Gunze paint! Mas-mahal pa siya sa isang 1/144 scale aircraft kit!

Eto sa inyo mga taga Nat'l Bookstore!!!
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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 11:55 PM UTC

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... may kasamang thick foil from powdered milk cans and used diaper camo netting yeba!!!



That stinks, LITERALLY #:-)
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Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 11:39 AM UTC

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... may kasamang thick foil from powdered milk cans and used diaper camo netting yeba!!!



uuuuy... mukang merong mga nagpapraktis lagi! alam na alam! oi, cbrain21... sama mo na rin pati bib tsaka bimpo! hehehehe
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Posted: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 08:52 PM UTC
Anyone of you have/found this kit



M4A3 Sherman 1/35 Out of Production.

Also the Italeri M4 Sherman with Calliope. Isa pa to sa mga OOP.

Nangongolekta kasi ako ng Shermans, hope anyone would be willing to sell it or have found it, please let me know.
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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 02:45 AM UTC
Hello Everyone,
Im new to this forum,and I was wondering kung pwede ring mag post ng message.
I would like to know if somebody is out there who has a 1/72 armor kits na ESCI who is willing to sell it (unbuilt if possible).

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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 12:29 PM UTC
Welcome RATSG99! Stick around and I'm sure na merong magrereply dito. Don't forget to post your details sa profile thread!
CSMeekai
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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 01:35 PM UTC
Anybody saw a MIL-Mi9 in any of the hobby shops around?
CSMeekai
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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 01:40 PM UTC

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Hello Everyone,
Im new to this forum,and I was wondering kung pwede ring mag post ng message.
I would like to know if somebody is out there who has a 1/72 armor kits na ESCI who is willing to sell it (unbuilt if possible).




Ei, another one on board! welcome aboard, soldier!
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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 02:51 PM UTC

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Anybody saw a MIL-Mi9 in any of the hobby shops around?



Don't tell me you're into the whirlybird building na rin? :-)
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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 03:06 PM UTC

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Don't tell me you're into the whirlybird building na rin? :-)



interest has been there alongside ACs... didn't start on them whirlies just yet.... hone one skill at a time (as though i am improving when i'm not) :-)... and well... a build's a build... in case i'd have one of those, i may just be compelled to begin the whirly-works. hehe
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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 05:30 PM UTC
Welcome RATSG99!! Do post in our little fropiles thread.
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Posted: Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 08:55 AM UTC

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Hello Everyone,
Im new to this forum,and I was wondering kung pwede ring mag post ng message.
I would like to know if somebody is out there who has a 1/72 armor kits na ESCI who is willing to sell it (unbuilt if possible).




Saw some in Hobbies And Comics quite sometime ago. ot sure if thery're still there though.


BT6
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Posted: Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:49 AM UTC
WARRIOR MCV (M2a2 IFV)(parang Bradley ng UK)for sale/trade. brand new(

unti may 10
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Posted: Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:55 AM UTC
ei oo nga pla meron b kyong used airbrush??? TAMIYA HG's? or Pro spray kits?

sasabog na ung airbrush ko e

ano b mostly gngmit nyo? ENAMELS OR ACRYLICS?
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Posted: Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:25 PM UTC

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ei oo nga pla meron b kyong used airbrush??? TAMIYA HG's? or Pro spray kits?

sasabog na ung airbrush ko e

ano b mostly gngmit nyo? ENAMELS OR ACRYLICS?



Sorry, I'm using all my Tamiya a/b's. What do you mean "sasabog ang a/b mo?" What brand are you using? Could I interest you in a rarely used Badger?

I use my a/b on all kinds of paint.
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Posted: Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 02:46 AM UTC
4-eyes, you're selling a Badger? Which one? Is it Gravity fed? I need to find a cheap grav fed AB. (Yeah, I know, I got 2 Badgers already - SAAB and DAAB).