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Posted: Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 01:01 PM UTC
Realised that the ESCI 109 kit has great seats to use as a guide for the scratchbuild lightweight seats. Gave me another correction to deal with as my placement of the seats backing sheet would have given the driver and passengers a more reclined position, more akin to an F16 fighter jet. A few cuts and repositioning.



Also means a bit of patching of the holes left at the corners. Well my Landy needed lots of patching up to keeping it running, so I will put it down to damage by cargo or summit.



Placed the Monogram engine block and gearbox in the lightweight to see how it would look. Intension being to use this as a guide to scratch a basic engine to go under the hood. After all, will need the engine for the 88.



Surprised myself how easy it fitted in, though using the 88 chassis as my guide meant I had to be close, even with the slight bodywork differences.



Made a start using large section rectangular hollow tube glued between sheet end pieces. The top is set in the narrow plane vertically, and the bottom with the narrow plane horizontally.





The space in between filled with thin sheet to place all the other componants on to build up the general shape.



The sump is another section of the hollow tube, this time laminated with thick p/card to get the required width, then sanded to profile.

More to follow when time allows

Nige
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Posted: Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 04:14 PM UTC
oh man, you're even doing the engine from scratch awesome




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Posted: Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 08:52 AM UTC

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oh man, you're even doing the engine from scratch awesome


Hi Ko

Thanks for looking in. Here is where I am at today having worked a little on the engine.

Was glorious weather up here in Lossie so I took the opportunity to do some al-fresco model building. It only just got colder and breezy so gives me an excuse to post up some progress.



Carved thick sheet into the timing belt housing (I think) on the front of the engine block. The circles are to form the clutch housing.



The circles were placed on the mini drill to glue up the laminations and then sand smooth. I found that I made an early start on the chamfering by scribing a larger circle on one side of the plastic, and by turning the sheet over, scribing a smaller circle. When pressed out, the plastic took the path of least resistance and left a natural chamfer.



The clutch housing on for test fit



Added some thin plastic strips to mimic the reinforcement to the clutch housing



The same hollow rectangle section tubing used to form the basis of the gearbox and transfer box casings glued to the clutch. Will add on some light detailing after I have checked it can all still fit in on the lightweight.



Copied the sump fixings



My lovely mum in law layed on a brunch fry up to keep me going



Karen decided that Arron needed some daddy time and he spent some time on my lap as I fettled away at the plastic, sometimes a bit shoogly. A good excuse for my inaccuracies.





And Arron's thoughts on my work so far ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, !!!!!!!



All the best from a sunny Lossiemouth

Nige
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Posted: Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 10:11 AM UTC
Hi Nige!

Father and son modeling together already. That's the spirit man! Are You going to be ready 'till the Scottish Nationals?

Andy
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Posted: Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 10:54 AM UTC

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Hi Nige!

Father and son modeling together already. That's the spirit man! Are You going to be ready 'till the Scottish Nationals?

Andy


Andy

I loved it when the girls took an interest in the models last year and it is only cause we are all cramped up this time that I have not taken models for the girls too. Holly is desperate to get her hand in on some painting.

I need to clear some space at home in my callander and on the dining table to make that happen.

With luck I am hoping the Landy will at least appear at Perth in a basic coat of paint. Depends on how much peace I can get inbetween nappy changes, feeding and entertaining the girls on hols.

Thanks for looking in on the build and hope to see you at Perth.

Nige
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Posted: Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 11:30 AM UTC
oh no... don't eat the model parts! and then def don't eat the baby!!! JK

yeah, sometime I'll build at the beach or in the backyard too. It's perfect because you don't have to worry about sanding dust or fumes. I see the pop bottle, but what's really in that glass?

I have that exact ESCI LR109 kit here too. That engine is taking shape




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Posted: Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 12:09 PM UTC

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oh no... don't eat the model parts! and then def don't eat the baby!!! JK

yeah, sometime I'll build at the beach or in the backyard too. It's perfect because you don't have to worry about sanding dust or fumes. I see the pop bottle, but what's really in that glass?

I have that exact ESCI LR109 kit here too. That engine is taking shape



Yep Ko ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, just straight Doctor Pepper "It's so miss-understood" !!!

The Esci 109 has a great chassis, suspension detail and body work, but a fixed bonnet and no engine. Maybe, having scratched one engine, I may do one for the 109 aswell. We will another time.

The weather is supposed to be on the change again, so I don't know if I will get to model out of doors on the hols. We will see. It is so relaxing as long as the wind does not make the Landy the equivelant of the flying jeep !!!!

Nige
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Posted: Monday, April 11, 2011 - 03:40 AM UTC
Boy, you sure took off with this, the past two months! Great to see Arron involved.

Do you really keep tools in those cardboard rice containers?--or, is there a metal container where the foil comes from...would you have a picture of the containers?
What era would this model represent?
Does Monogram really make a Land-Rover kit?
What is "Kit Form Services?"
Who is "Pete Tong?"

It is good to see someone bite right through the matter, and not get hung up on the undercarriage, where it is not visible anyway. Good to see more metal reinforcement on the leaf-springs. This is great work--wish I could progress this rapidly.
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Posted: Monday, April 11, 2011 - 06:39 AM UTC

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Boy, you sure took off with this, the past two months! Great to see Arron involved.

Do you really keep tools in those cardboard rice containers?--or, is there a metal container where the foil comes from...would you have a picture of the containers?
What era would this model represent?
Does Monogram really make a Land-Rover kit?
What is "Kit Form Services?"
Who is "Pete Tong?"

It is good to see someone bite right through the matter, and not get hung up on the undercarriage, where it is not visible anyway. Good to see more metal reinforcement on the leaf-springs. This is great work--wish I could progress this rapidly.


Do you really keep tools in those cardboard rice containers?

-----------------I will try to get a few pics of my basic tool box and model travel box I took on holiday this year after dinner to let you see what I took.

What era would this model represent?

------------------ http://www.landroverlightweight.info/index.htm gives a bit of history on the Lightweight

Does Monogram really make a Land-Rover kit?

-------------------- The Landrover short wheel base kit is often seen on e-bay at varied prices. If I remember right there is one currently listed. This one is rather overpriced as I have seen yhrm sell for far less.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Old-Monogram-2279-LAND-ROVER-FS-Model-Car-Swap-Meet-/320674602647?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa9b21e97

What is "Kit Form Services?

-------------------- A UK bases resin transkit and aftermarket parts specialising in 1/24 scale trucks. They also do a new range of 1/24 scale milittary kits. Excellent manufacturer.

http://www.kitformservices.com/

Who is "Pete Tong?

--------------------- Going Pete Tong ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, all going wrong !!!!!! Ryming slang.
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Posted: Monday, April 11, 2011 - 02:21 PM UTC
Rick

You asked about my travel boxes of scratchbuilding tools !!!!!!!

Firstly, a plastic biscuit box



my cutting mat and larger tools including hole punch, metal plate and plumb bob for rolling tin foil flat



plastic carry out tubs containing two part epoxy resin and a small home made multi hand with croc clips





sharps, clamps and set squares





mini drills, tweezers, embossing tools rifles





circle cutters, folding tools, wire bending, tube cutting





larger rifles, files, scribing, embosing and carving tools





a selection of fine and course sanding tools



What you see on the mats fits in the plastic carry out boxes. The four carry out boxes fit nicely with the metal sheet and larger tools in the biscuit box. The biscuit box, the cutting mat, my reference pics, plasticard sheet, strip profiles, wire and two ESCI 1/24 scale 109 Landrover kits, the Monogram Landy and the as built Lightweight Landrover all fit neatly into a plastic box of the type that fits under a bed.

All to keep me sane on my holiday.

Nige



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Posted: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 - 05:50 AM UTC
Thank-you for the fabulous links! Did your tires come from Kit Form Services?

That tool kit is impressive...makes my fingers twitch, they look so handy, and appropriate. I had a mobile model shop back in the 1970's, when I would go off to Grandma's for days on end. Her life had not changed much since the 1940's, and, she told me stories about her brother who had served with the First Armored Division--I was too scared to ask him anything, because he never spoke about the experience. Yeah, that is a nice tool kit, there.

What are the three tools, with transparent handles?--these are shown fifth, sixth, and seventh from the left, along the bottom row, from the box labeled: "Mini Files, Micro Drills, Tweezers, Embossing Tools."
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Posted: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 - 06:47 AM UTC
Hi Rick

The three tools you mention are embossing tools that folks who make their own birthday cards, copper plate pictures, etc use to press their preferred medium into shape. The two ends of each are shaped in perfect spheres of different diameters.

I use it to emboss the tin foil over existing kit parts to make a thinner copy. Also, I have learned to use the embossing tool instead of a knife blade to mark out my fold lines in the tin foil as the rounded head does not induce a severe fracture line on the fold. Keeps the folds stronger and easier to bend without breaking.

Will post pics up later.

Nige
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Posted: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 - 02:10 PM UTC
Fixed the rear cruss member to the chassis which also determines the body height. Will add detailing including the bady attachment points and rear bumperettes later.



Scratchbuilt a steering wheel using wire round a cut plastic former, plasticard for the spokes, a plasticard hub, drilled to accept a thick portion of stretched sprue.







All glurd together using two part epoxy.



Additional epoxy added to the spokes to add a little depth to them





Engine block in for test fit









Nige
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Posted: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 - 10:16 AM UTC
Not having much luck before the Perth Show as the wife is still in hospital and my car has just failed its MOT and needs lots done this time !!!!!! Will need to organize a taxi to get her home if she gets allowed home tomorrow.

Not done owt on the Landy too since got back from Lossie.

Might even put paid to getting to Perth if the car not ready by then.

The joys

Nige
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Posted: Monday, May 16, 2011 - 09:43 AM UTC
Back to the model

A few days back I was attempting to add some more details to the engine and was distracted by having to deal with a minor dispute between the girls. Having dealt with the matter in my usual no nonsense manner "GO TO BED !!!!! ", I turned back to the dining table and stumbled.

In the process I got my balance by placing my hand on the table and snapped the start of the front, nearside wing off.





I was not totally happy with the wings anyway, so it forced me to cut these section off both sides and start again. Having looked at the photos I realized that I needed to form indents for the lower door hinges



I drilled a starter hole and filed the rectangles out of each side piece. Then added a backing plate and rounded off using liquid glue to soften the the sharp edges.





This is what I am trying to achieve with a busy engine bay



And after a some interrupted play at the dining table, this is as far as I have got on the replacement wings.



Another job I did was to add the brackets to the rear cross member that the rear tub will be bolted to. This also gives the correct ride height for the body shell.



Gonna see if I can get some more done tonight.

Nige
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 06:01 AM UTC
Looking better all the time, like it

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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 10:25 AM UTC
Nige been following this since the beginning! I must say awesome scratch building work I love how shes looking so far not long until paint? I think it was a right choice to re do the front fenders

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Posted: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 11:17 AM UTC
Been busy with work, kids and the dear wife !!!!!!

Little bit of fixing carried out to the wings and a little trimming back of the nose of the bonnet as I realized that I had too much overhang at the front.



Much happier with the sit of the bonnet now



And much happier having fixed the sides where the door hinges will be secured.



Engine placed for show with new wings





Engine, clutch, gearbox and transfer case





Nige
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Posted: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 03:33 PM UTC
Packing a bit more into the engine bay. Scratched a brake bellows, master cylinder and fluid reservoir.

Laminated circles again with a trim of thin strip for the edging the bellows and fluid reservior. Sprue cut and sanded for the master cylinder. Tin foil trim around the front grill.







Nige
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Posted: Thursday, June 02, 2011 - 08:57 AM UTC
Looking superb, Nige really looking the part now

Malcolm
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Posted: Monday, June 13, 2011 - 02:01 AM UTC
Thanks Malcolm for looking in on the build. Hope you and everyone else looking in have not gone to sleep waiting on the next instalment.

Added some pipes to the brake master cylinder







Air filter housing and the first part of the flexi hose that will eventually get linked to an carburator and engine manifold on the opposite side of the engine



Distributer cap and leads





Starter motor fixed to the cylinder head cover



Where the engine bay is at the moment





Nige

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Posted: Monday, June 13, 2011 - 07:39 AM UTC
Too good to fall asleep to.
One thing though, the `starter motor` is the ignition coil.
Sorry for being pedantic.

Malcolm
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Posted: Monday, June 13, 2011 - 09:05 AM UTC
Malcolm

Tee hee ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Good job I wasnae in the REME !!!!!!! I just drove and broke them ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Handed them back working or broken !!!!!!!!!

Glad there is someone out there to keep me right. Please keep them coming too Malcolm as I am working from restoration web sites and they are a little lacking on descriptions. Needless to say I am more a Mc Comic than a mechanic !!!!!!

Thanks for looking in.

Nige

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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 07:41 AM UTC
Hi Nige - I have been following this build since ya started and I have to say I love the results yer gettin bud - really good stuff and very inspirational with yer use of materials - love yer toolkit too 30 years an engineer & mine's pretty similar!

You've nailed all the shapes perfectly - instantly recognisable - I LOVE IT!

Keep it up mate

Dicky
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Posted: Friday, November 04, 2011 - 12:32 PM UTC

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Hi Nige - I have been following this build since ya started and I have to say I love the results yer gettin bud - really good stuff and very inspirational with yer use of materials - love yer toolkit too 30 years an engineer & mine's pretty similar!

You've nailed all the shapes perfectly - instantly recognisable - I LOVE IT!

Keep it up mate

Dicky


Hi Dicky

Thanks for looking in !!!!!!!!!!! Would love to see what your toolkit looks like as there always something that others use that might make life easier if used to their best. I keep meaning to buy one of those fine punches for making hex nuts and bolts but they seem to be crazy prices.

I see you add lots of bolt and fine detailing to your 1/35 truck !!!!!!!!!!! What is it you use ????

Unfortunately the Lightweight has taken a back seat to the DAF DROPS for the moment as I am managing to get my mojo going with that. Along with the fact that I am getting a lot of help from a friend who is still in the TA to look over and measure the drops next week.

Going to try and press on with the DROPS and break the build up into manageable segments to get it finished.

Will be looking on your HEMMT build for insperation.

Nige
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