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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:40 AM UTC
Factory stock M-1917.
Cody
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:42 AM UTC
1st ID. These 'painted' doughboys were decorated shortly after the war as an expression of espirit.
Cody
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:44 AM UTC
2nd ID, 23rd Infantry, Supply Company
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:45 AM UTC
2nd ID, 23rd Infantry, Machine Gun Company
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:47 AM UTC
2nd ID, 17th Field Artillery, HQ
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:48 AM UTC
2nd ID, 2nd Engineer Train
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:49 AM UTC
2nd ID, 6th Marines, 1st Battalion
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:51 AM UTC
Is this the same helmet like the one that the Brits used or is it just a similar one Cody?
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:51 AM UTC
2nd ID, 2nd Battalion, 6th Marines
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3rd ID
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Another 3rd ID
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Yet another 3rd ID.
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:56 AM UTC
26th ID
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:57 AM UTC
30th ID
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78th ID
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Another 78th ID
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91st ID
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 02:07 AM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 02:09 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Is this the same helmet like the one that the Brits used or is it just a similar one Cody?
Same helmet. The US actually used British and American produced M-1917 steel helmets. There were some differences in liner configuration plus a slightly different shell shape as well.
Cody
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 02:21 AM UTC
"I´m going back to the front to relax"
"THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT"
"Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant"
"When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 02:30 AM UTC
There is also a difference in rivets (The British used a spkit pin rivet) used to hold the chinstrap bales on, the paint and texture used (The British was finer), and a difference in either steel quality or manufacturing process (Not sure which...) . The latter causes a sort of ripple effect in the steel shell of British produced helmets. To clarify further what Cody said, the U.S. actually bought 400,000 Mk.1 steel helmets from the British soon after they realized the campaign hat used on the SW border wasn't going to cut it in the trenches. U.S. units were outfitted with the helmets, gas masks, and later puttees while in training in Europe.
That is a mighty fine collection you have thier Cody. I seriously envy you. I only have two. You seem to have a certain liking of the 2nd ID. Are they more common than others? I know they have seemingly a million configurations, is collecting those variations a hobby in itself for you?
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piggy # 76 Lord Stomp and Mig hater
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 03:30 AM UTC
Hi David,
The 2nd ID helmets are a particular favorite but also are not particularly common.
Yes, the British rivets, liners, chinstraps and paint are all slightly different from US produced helmets.

The British shells are far more attractive, but, admittedly the difference in shape is minor, if non-existent, to the untrained eye.
These helmets are a side interest to the Third Reich items which is not to suggest they are less significant. A few of the presented M-1917 helmets are more valuable than a few of my Third Reich helmets.
Cody
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 04:34 AM UTC
Terrific collection Cody, thanks for posting them.
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 05:47 AM UTC
Lord Dave
You know you're a modeler when....
a:your fingers are forever encrusted with dried paint/cured glue
b:you smell of enamel thinner, glue, and paint 24/7
c:you shed a tear when the hobby shop closes.
piggy # 76 Lord Stomp and Mig hater