Factory stock M-1917.
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US M-1917 steel helmets
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:40 AM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:42 AM UTC
1st ID. These 'painted' doughboys were decorated shortly after the war as an expression of espirit.
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:44 AM UTC
2nd ID, 23rd Infantry, Supply Company
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:45 AM UTC
2nd ID, 23rd Infantry, Machine Gun Company
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:47 AM UTC
2nd ID, 17th Field Artillery, HQ
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:48 AM UTC
2nd ID, 2nd Engineer Train
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:49 AM UTC
2nd ID, 6th Marines, 1st Battalion
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:51 AM UTC
Is this the same helmet like the one that the Brits used or is it just a similar one Cody?
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:51 AM UTC
2nd ID, 2nd Battalion, 6th Marines
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:53 AM UTC
3rd ID
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:54 AM UTC
Another 3rd ID
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:55 AM UTC
Yet another 3rd ID.
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:56 AM UTC
26th ID
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:57 AM UTC
30th ID
Removed by original poster on 02/19/07 - 04:02:19 (GMT).
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 02:04 AM UTC
78th ID
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 02:05 AM UTC
Another 78th ID
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 02:06 AM UTC
91st ID
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 02:07 AM UTC
Let's try the 77th ID one more time...
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 02:09 AM UTC
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Is this the same helmet like the one that the Brits used or is it just a similar one Cody?
Same helmet. The US actually used British and American produced M-1917 steel helmets. There were some differences in liner configuration plus a slightly different shell shape as well.
Cody
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 02:21 AM UTC
Cheers a bunch Cody!
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 02:30 AM UTC
There is also a difference in rivets (The British used a spkit pin rivet) used to hold the chinstrap bales on, the paint and texture used (The British was finer), and a difference in either steel quality or manufacturing process (Not sure which...) . The latter causes a sort of ripple effect in the steel shell of British produced helmets. To clarify further what Cody said, the U.S. actually bought 400,000 Mk.1 steel helmets from the British soon after they realized the campaign hat used on the SW border wasn't going to cut it in the trenches. U.S. units were outfitted with the helmets, gas masks, and later puttees while in training in Europe.
That is a mighty fine collection you have thier Cody. I seriously envy you. I only have two. You seem to have a certain liking of the 2nd ID. Are they more common than others? I know they have seemingly a million configurations, is collecting those variations a hobby in itself for you?
That is a mighty fine collection you have thier Cody. I seriously envy you. I only have two. You seem to have a certain liking of the 2nd ID. Are they more common than others? I know they have seemingly a million configurations, is collecting those variations a hobby in itself for you?
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 03:30 AM UTC
Hi David,
The 2nd ID helmets are a particular favorite but also are not particularly common.
Yes, the British rivets, liners, chinstraps and paint are all slightly different from US produced helmets. The British shells are far more attractive, but, admittedly the difference in shape is minor, if non-existent, to the untrained eye.
These helmets are a side interest to the Third Reich items which is not to suggest they are less significant. A few of the presented M-1917 helmets are more valuable than a few of my Third Reich helmets.
Cody
The 2nd ID helmets are a particular favorite but also are not particularly common.
Yes, the British rivets, liners, chinstraps and paint are all slightly different from US produced helmets. The British shells are far more attractive, but, admittedly the difference in shape is minor, if non-existent, to the untrained eye.
These helmets are a side interest to the Third Reich items which is not to suggest they are less significant. A few of the presented M-1917 helmets are more valuable than a few of my Third Reich helmets.
Cody
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 04:34 AM UTC
Terrific collection Cody, thanks for posting them.
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 05:47 AM UTC
I'd imagine that 6th Marines helmet is high up there!