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If you could write a book
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Posted: Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 06:15 PM UTC
Okay, your life long fantasy has been fulfilled. You receive a grant to write on any historical subject. What would you write about? Where would you go to do research? What trips would you take?
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Posted: Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 08:38 PM UTC
"The Bleeding Sand, the story of Dunkirk." I like to try to cut through all the myths and get to the true story. I suppose the main research would be done in London, Berlin, and Paris, with of course trips to the beaches themselves. I want to read everything I could that has already been written on the subject, and try to interview any surviving vets, though I'm sure there aren't all that many left. The main thing I'd like to get the truth about is just how important the "little ships" were, meaning the small craft that supposedly sailed from every river and port in Britain.

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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 06:34 AM UTC
Rodger,

I have no facts to give you, but I suspect the answer lies more in the morale boost of the effort itself than in the actual numbers brought back by those small craft.

The British mystery series, Foyle's War, has an episode on this -- I believe it the last or next-to-last -- and you can get the sense from that.

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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 07:18 AM UTC
I would probably be keen on writing about the evolution of the military strategies used since WWI up until the modern era. That coupled with the changing strategies used by the "other side" and see if we have truly become more effective with modern day technology.

Such a book would require a high degree of security clearance i suspect. One that wouldnt be easy to get.
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 04:41 PM UTC
There's a fair amount of eyewitness material in this book

Dunkirk

Though I wasn't always convinced by some of the author's handling of military details. My partner's late father was a Dunkirk veteran, though he was evacuated on an RN destroyer and not one of the little ships.

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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 06:01 PM UTC
Dunkirk, the only book I can recall reading on the subject was Walter Lord's work of the same name. Are there any other authors who have addressed the subject? Personally, I would write on either Dieppe or the 14th Cavalry Group during the Battle of the Bulge. I would want to visit the Army archives in Carlisle, Pennsylvania and tour the battlefield as I have done on several occassions. I would also use the grant to take a course in writing composition. Above all, the final work would have an abundant supply of maps which are too often lacking in history books.
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 07:12 PM UTC

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Dunkirk, the only book I can recall reading on the subject was Walter Lord's work of the same name. Are there any other authors who have addressed the subject? Personally, I would write on either Dieppe or the 14th Cavalry Group during the Battle of the Bulge. I would want to visit the Army archives in Carlisle, Pennsylvania and tour the battlefield as I have done on several occassions. I would also use the grant to take a course in writing composition. Above all, the final work would have an abundant supply of maps which are too often lacking in history books.
DJ



DJ - have a look at the Dunkirk book linked in my posting above, there are afew quibbles but nothing major to disagree with. For Dieppe there is Robin Neilland's book which is in my pending pile (along with a couple of books on the London Blitz that I've picked up cheaply).

If you're still interested in the Somme, Peter Hart's recent book is worth reading.

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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 08:24 PM UTC

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Dunkirk, the only book I can recall reading on the subject was Walter Lord's work of the same name. Are there any other authors who have addressed the subject? Personally, I would write on either Dieppe or the 14th Cavalry Group during the Battle of the Bulge. I would want to visit the Army archives in Carlisle, Pennsylvania and tour the battlefield as I have done on several occassions. I would also use the grant to take a course in writing composition. Above all, the final work would have an abundant supply of maps which are too often lacking in history books.
DJ



DJ - have a look at the Dunkirk book linked in my posting above, there are afew quibbles but nothing major to disagree with. For Dieppe there is Robin Neilland's book which is in my pending pile (along with a couple of books on the London Blitz that I've picked up cheaply).

If you're still interested in the Somme, Peter Hart's recent book is worth reading.

David



David-- I am deep into Martin Gilbert's Somme and will look up Hart's as a follow-up. So, what book are you going to write?
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 08:41 PM UTC
The book I would like to write would be on the Roman conquest of Britain, as I'm definitely not a believer in the story that Richborough was the landing site.

The evidence is however so sketchy that you could make a case for a landing at virtually any point on the south coast.

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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 09:16 PM UTC

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The book I would like to write would be on the Roman conquest of Britain, as I'm definitely not a believer in the story that Richborough was the landing site.

The evidence is however so sketchy that you could make a case for a landing at virtually any point on the south coast.

David



David-- the thread particpants have now spanned World War II, I and the Roamn Invasion of Britian. I trust someone will provide us their insights on subjects between these parameters. See what comes up.
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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2007 - 09:15 PM UTC
I would like to write a book about the Princesss Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry and in particular, their actions in this battle at Kap 'yong in Korea. It's the stuff of legend.....


http://www.kvacanada.com/stories_rskap'yong.htm

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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2007 - 10:34 PM UTC

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I would like to write a book about the Princesss Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry and in particular, their actions in this battle at Kap 'yong in Korea. It's the stuff of legend.....


http://www.kvacanada.com/stories_rskap'yong.htm

Bob



Bob-- good call based on the link provided. PPCLI certainly deserves suitable recognition for their achievements. Are these folks now in Afghanistan?
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Posted: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 01:46 AM UTC
I would probably write a book on Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck. Really a very interesting character, with alot to write about.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 01:52 AM UTC

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I would probably write a book on Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck. Really a very interesting character, with alot to write about.



Dave-- for the enlightment of all, can you provide a brief run down on this fine fellow?
thanks
DJ
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Posted: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 02:24 AM UTC
DJ - yes they are. It was the 2nd Battalion that won the Presidential Citation in Korea but it's the 1st Battalion PPCLI with the A Company 'Red Devils' (among others) that are in Afghanistan now.

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Posted: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 05:44 AM UTC

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DJ - yes they are. It was the 2nd Bataalion that won the Presidential Citation in Korea but it's the 1st Battalion PPCLI with the A Company 'Red Devils' (among others) that are in Afghanistan now.

Bob



Bob-- worked with those fine Soldiers during Rendezvous 89. Great guys, let's keep them in our thoughts and prayers.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 08:13 AM UTC

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I would probably write a book on Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck. Really a very interesting character, with alot to write about.



Dave-- for the enlightment of all, can you provide a brief run down on this fine fellow?
thanks
DJ



He was a German Colonel who fought in Africa in WWI. With only what he could furnish himself, because there was no resupply, he managed to fight for 3 years without defeat. In fact, he didn't surrender until the 25th of November, 1918, two weeks after the armistice. he became a legend on both sides of the war for his campaign, which was the longest fought by Germany.

It would really make one killer book...


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Posted: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 08:34 AM UTC
Amen DJ, Amen......
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Posted: Friday, February 02, 2007 - 09:54 AM UTC
What do you mean "if"? There is no if, there is do or not to do. You do it, IF you want too, you find a way.

For me the Dark Ages just because so little is known about it. Since I don't have the time and history books tend not to be money makers I'll have to leave it to other to do.
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Posted: Friday, February 02, 2007 - 07:31 PM UTC

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What do you mean "if"? There is no if, there is do or not to do. You do it, IF you want too, you find a way.

For me the Dark Ages just because so little is known about it. Since I don't have the time and history books tend not to be money makers I'll have to leave it to other to do.



ou lost me. Which post are yo referring to?
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Posted: Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 11:15 PM UTC

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What do you mean "if"? There is no if, there is do or not to do. You do it, IF you want too, you find a way.

For me the Dark Ages just because so little is known about it. Since I don't have the time and history books tend not to be money makers I'll have to leave it to other to do.



ou lost me. Which post are yo referring to?



The title of your thread "IF you could write a book."
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Posted: Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 06:45 AM UTC

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What do you mean "if"? There is no if, there is do or not to do. You do it, IF you want too, you find a way.

For me the Dark Ages just because so little is known about it. Since I don't have the time and history books tend not to be money makers I'll have to leave it to other to do.



ou lost me. Which post are yo referring to?



The title of your thread "IF you could write a book."



As has often been said, the folks in the "Dark Ages" never knew they were in the dark ages. So, what are you going to key on writing about?
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Posted: Friday, February 09, 2007 - 06:56 AM UTC
I'd like to write about the Soviet soldiers experience in "The Great Patriotic War" Especially the tank crewmen

*edit*

I'd like to write about any truck drivers in the ETO Maybe that's because I drive big rig for a living
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Posted: Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 07:28 PM UTC
Truck drivers in the ETO. I imagine you would want to concentrate on the Red Ball Express guys. Has been any work focused on their contribution. There is a film out dating to the '50's that I recall seeing.
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Posted: Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 08:05 AM UTC

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Truck drivers in the ETO. I imagine you would want to concentrate on the Red Ball Express guys. Has been any work focused on their contribution. There is a film out dating to the '50's that I recall seeing.



Red Ball Express is covered in "The Road to Victory" by Colley.
IIRC, the topic is also addressed in: "Foxholes & Color Lines" by Mershon, et al, and "The Right to Fight" by Astor, as of course in the US Army "Green Books" of WW2.

Break.

When I retired, one thing I wanted to do was write a book. Then I found I had absolutely no useful or original idea, so I'll just be happy being an old hack ... at least a tree or two will live ...

John