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Best WW2 heavy bomber?
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Posted: Monday, December 20, 2004 - 12:49 PM UTC
Okay....there is 10 minutes of my life I won't get back.

Can I remind EVERYONE that if you are going to ask a question like "best WW2 bomber?" that everyone can post there opinion AND NOT have to defend it.

Really....this could have gone much better if everyone had just lightened up a bit.

And for the record.... it's the B-29.



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Posted: Monday, December 20, 2004 - 01:04 PM UTC

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Okay....there is 10 minutes of my life I won't get back.

Can I remind EVERYONE that if you are going to ask a question like "best WW2 bomber?" that everyone can post there opinion AND NOT have to defend it.

Really....this could have gone much better if everyone had just lightened up a bit.

And for the record.... it's the B-29.



Jim



Jim-- call me confused by your response. You own the site and certainly can conduct business as you see fit. I volunteered to moderate a forum/discussions in which contributor offer plausible reasons for their choices. We have a large response audience. So folks are interested. Than without anyone on the staff giving me even the courtesy of a e mail, this particular topic is locked-down. If I am not doing what you want a Moderator to do, tell me. I certainly enjoy the discussions we conduct here. But, you are more than welcome to find someone else who would be more acceptable to your manner of doing business.
I can always be replaced.
DJ
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Posted: Monday, December 20, 2004 - 01:06 PM UTC
DJ...i didn't notice it being locked...B-24 (:-)
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Posted: Monday, December 20, 2004 - 01:26 PM UTC
Me neither.Lancaster! (:-) (:-) (:-) (:-) (:-) (:-)
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Posted: Monday, December 20, 2004 - 03:10 PM UTC

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Jim-- call me confused by your response. You own the site and certainly can conduct business as you see fit. I volunteered to moderate a forum/discussions in which contributor offer plausible reasons for their choices. We have a large response audience. So folks are interested. Than without anyone on the staff giving me even the courtesy of a e mail, this particular topic is locked-down. If I am not doing what you want a Moderator to do, tell me. I certainly enjoy the discussions we conduct here. But, you are more than welcome to find someone else who would be more acceptable to your manner of doing business.
I can always be replaced.
DJ



DJ,
I only locked the topic after I created the above post but it did not seem to register. I thought there was some technical issue going on so I locked the post to avoid a posting problem. I am still not sure why it was not showing up for me earlier.

As for my response I think it is perfectly plain. You are free to moderate as you see fit but there were serious lines being overstepped here by both members and staff-members. Personally I don't think it was your place to say anything on this. But it is mine.

If ANY member has personal issues with another member i suggest they either ignore that persons comments (yes Rob is thinking ignore fuction here --- and I am starting to think it might be worth it) or they can PM them and attempt to work out their differences.

My "10 minutes of my life" comment may have been misinterprited. I did not mean 10 mins to read thread but 10 minutes to delete all the off-topic comments in said thread.

Thanks,
Jim

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Posted: Monday, December 20, 2004 - 08:41 PM UTC
Robert, the B26s used in the Congo, Indochina by the French and later by the U.S. in Vietnam, were the ultimate refinement of the B26 with upgraded power plants, avionics and a much improved offensive capability.

The Lincoln? I must admit I know relatively little about this magnificent aircraft.. Anyone got a decent link for it?...Jim
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Posted: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 12:13 AM UTC
Jim-- you need to get yourself another moderator for this forum. There was no necessity to delete any post. I am no longer the moderator for the History Forum.
DJ
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Posted: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 10:46 AM UTC
I don't think you can have a "all out best" heavy bomber. The Lancaster did it's job to the best of it's ability & so did the American aircraft. They were developed to meet different requirements and fulfill different strategies. Some points - to carry the "bouncing bomb" the 617 Squadron Lancs had to have the mid-upper turret removed and the underside extensively modified. The modifications allowed the aircraft to also carry the "Tallboys".
Apropos of nothing, my Father flew air tests on British & American aircraft, he was a radar fitter working on H2S. He told me that after a flight, equipment fitted to British planes was in pieces in a tray underneath the set, and how impressed he was by the build quality of American aircraft - everthing had it's place and was beautifully fitted, rather than the "cobbled up" stuff of ours. (Bear in mind we'd been at war for nearly 5 years by the time he was called up - I do NOT mean this comment to be a criticism of any nationality!)
As for the B24 being a hard aircraft to fly, pity the poor Lancaster pilot, who had to fly the plane on his own (though the Flight Engineer could squat on a jump seat next to him and handle the throttles on take-off!).
Halifaxes and Stirlings were retired from front-line service and used to tow gliders in the big Airborne operations, and drop supplies.
Best British heavy bomber, Lancaster, no question.
Best American, probably B29 on balance. B17 & B24 run it close.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 10:51 AM UTC
I forgot - as to kits, well everyone & his dog make Lancasters, B24s, B17s & B29s. Airfix did make a Stirling, & I built the kit many years ago. A big feature with it was that you got an RAF tractor & a train of bomb trolleys with it. Revell of course make a Dambuster Lanc, but we won't go there...
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Posted: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 04:30 AM UTC

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Jim-- you need to get yourself another moderator for this forum. There was no necessity to delete any post. I am no longer the moderator for the History Forum.
DJ



DJ,
I am sorry you feel that way on both counts. Your dedication to this forum has been appriciated even if we did not always agree about the direction of certain current events topics (this not being one of those obviously). I am sorry to see you go.

Best wishes,
Jim