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Bribo
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Posted: Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 09:28 AM UTC
Do most of you that use Future as a top coat thin it before spraying through an airbrush? And if so, with what? I'd love to try it, as so many have recommended it, but want to do it right! :-)
Thanks,
Bribo
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Posted: Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 09:51 AM UTC
Nope straight from the bottle. You got to be careful of runs.
Pieter
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Posted: Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:01 AM UTC
hey Bribo

I sprya straight from the bottle with a single action brush. I spray it at about 5-10 psi. that way I dont get the runs with it. I alos spray it about 8 inches away so it will mist on instead of painting it on. Hope this helps you in your quest :-)
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Posted: Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 09:42 PM UTC
I cut it 50/50 with de-natured alcohol. This allows me to apply several thinner coats and it dries a little quicker too. I also don't get runs as bad. This is just my experience with it. HTH Good Luck.
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Posted: Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:26 PM UTC

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I cut it 50/50 with de-natured alcohol. This allows me to apply several thinner coats and it dries a little quicker too. I also don't get runs as bad. This is just my experience with it. HTH Good Luck.



Me too - it's easier to handle that way. I also use it un-cut for dipping canopies or windshield parts in...

Gunnie
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Posted: Monday, August 19, 2002 - 08:04 AM UTC
I am pretty new to using it but the one thing I would suggest is being patient and putting on a few light coats. It dries fast that way so you shouldn't have to wait to long. Someone told me to do it that way and it has worked great. I have always shot it without a adding alcohol but may try that if it works for others.
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Posted: Monday, August 19, 2002 - 07:18 PM UTC
How long does this stuff stay good I have a bunch but have not used it in years back to that case stuff again,do you think it is good or should I throw it all out and get another case. Well this time just a bottle Don't want to screw up now.
Thanks

great for painting wet eyes on Dinos.
GunTruck
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Posted: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:19 AM UTC

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How long does this stuff stay good I have a bunch but have not used it in years back to that case stuff again,do you think it is good or should I throw it all out and get another case. Well this time just a bottle Don't want to screw up now.
Thanks

great for painting wet eyes on Dinos.



Wow - good question. I use some super-old Future too and have never had a problem with it. I wonder if it does have a shelf life...

Gunnie
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 06:08 AM UTC
Hey guys,
I just replaced my bottle of future, because I discovered little gel like floaties inside the bottle. I've had that bottle for about 9 years. I hope that this helps you out some.



GunTruck
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 06:13 AM UTC

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Hey guys,
I just replaced my bottle of future, because I discovered little gel like floaties inside the bottle. I've had that bottle for about 9 years. I hope that this helps you out some.






Heh heh - mine's only 8 1/2 years old...

Gunnie
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Posted: Monday, August 26, 2002 - 11:28 AM UTC
Is the future applied only for helping the wash or is there another reason?
Folgore
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Posted: Monday, August 26, 2002 - 11:54 AM UTC
A gloss coat is good for decalling over too. It makes a smoother surface for the decal to adhere to.

Nic
Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 04:55 AM UTC
i can get as much Future as anyone would want, my wife works for S.C. Johnson

Chris Pig no.1
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Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 06:09 AM UTC
What do you use to clean the brush after spraying future?

Toni
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Posted: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 06:42 AM UTC
I just recently returned to models and used an acient bottle of future that was under my sink for at least 5 years. Goes to show how often single guys wax the floor!
dman
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Posted: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 11:13 AM UTC
Bringing this topic back from the dead...

I have recently bought Future, and was wondering how it should be applied if I were to use a brush. Right now I don't have an airbrush, and I don't see myself getting one in the near future. So I have to use a brush to apply Future to my 1/35 figures. I tried it once on some scrap parts, and little bubbles appeared with each brush stroke that I made. Is there any way to get rid of those bubbles? Should I be painting it lightly, or harder? Should I use thin coats or thick coats? If the bubbles do appear, should I just leave them on there, and they'll disappear when it dries?

Thanks for the help.
Folgore
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Posted: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 11:39 AM UTC

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Right now I don't have an airbrush, and I don't see myself getting one in the near future.



He he, getting one in the near "future". I like that one.........

Okay, that wasn't very helpful was it?

Well, I don't use Future, but I do know some people apply it just to the areas they are going to decal using a Q-tip. I would think it might leave fibres behind it, but apparently not. You could give that a try.

Nic
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Posted: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 12:06 PM UTC
Hey dman i think that an airbrush is a definite have in this hobby!! Saves u time and gives u much better results than a normal brush! I don t know what will happwn to me if i ever lose my beloved airbrush!! Its every modeller's personal weapon........ Go get one!
dman
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Posted: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 01:13 PM UTC
Hehehe, Folgore, I thought for a second about puting the "Pun not intended" in there...

basturk, I understand the importance of an airbrush. But right not it's not my priority, I'm still new to this area of the hobby ( I used to model cars and airplanes). Plus when I do get an airbrush, I do intend to get a very good one, hence I'll want to save up for one. But in the mean time I was just wondering if any of you had any tips for applying Future via a paint brush. Folgore, you're suggestion was noted, and I will try it out tomorrow.

Thanks again.
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 03:28 PM UTC

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So I have to use a brush to apply Future to my 1/35 figures


Why go to the bother of applying future to figures. I have painted all my figures with enamels, let them sit for 72 hours and then wash them. No problems. Its one less coat, saves the bother and saves hiding fine detail. I only recently got an airbrush so thats the way I did it, and I think the airbrush is much hassle to set up for figures. Well maybe just to do the undercoat, might be advantageous. Else get a spray can of humbrol primer or matt white. Spray lightly.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 05:12 PM UTC
Plasticbatle, What happend to your post??

Here is a picture of future



I hope you can find it in Italy, here in Belgium you can't, there are some alternatives, but I don't know how good they will be.

I have someone from America,who sends me a couple of bottles when I need them.

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Posted: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 05:30 PM UTC
I think Plastic got his post heard x 17!...lol edited Fixed that.

I believe the European counter-part to Future is called "Krystal". Can anyone there confirm this?
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 06:01 PM UTC
PHEWWWWwww!!
WHAT HAPPENED THERE? Sorry about that, but I dont know what I did. (twilight zone music).
Thanks for the picture of the bottle roadkill!
Was it there 17 times? I cleared away 5 and now Im down to 1 again
#:-)
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Posted: Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 08:39 AM UTC

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Why go to the bother of applying future to figures. I have painted all my figures with enamels, let them sit for 72 hours and then wash them. No problems. Its one less coat, saves the bother and saves hiding fine detail. I only recently got an airbrush so thats the way I did it, and I think the airbrush is much hassle to set up for figures. Well maybe just to do the undercoat, might be advantageous. Else get a spray can of humbrol primer or matt white. Spray lightly.



I have also painted my figures with enamels. But when I tried to do a wash with them (after not touching that piece for more than two weeks) the paint still came off. I did a very light wash, and still it stripped some of the paint. So I was told to use Future (or another clear coat) and then do the wash. So that's what I'm doing now.

So anyone have any suggestions on how to get rid of those bubbles?
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Posted: Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:56 AM UTC

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What do you use to clean the brush after spraying future?

Toni



I've found that the easiest way to clean the airbrush after using Future is to spray a siphon jar full of Windex through the brush, followed by hot water, and then, just to make sure everything is cleaned out, a shot of lacquer thinner. Never had a problem with the airbrush gumming up using this method.

HTH-
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