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Posted: Friday, April 16, 2004 - 04:52 AM UTC

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Who'd have thought that towns in an area settled by former former English subjects would be named after towns in England? No wonder they call this area New England.[/quote]

major,

not being at all knowledgeable on the geographical layout on the US i wouldnt really know where new england is,

joe[/quote]

Joe, Upper right hand corner on the map.
first bits settled.. Massachussetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Vermont, New Hampshire

Some want to include Maine and others even New York!!

It's s regional thing...

Mike
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Posted: Friday, April 16, 2004 - 06:25 AM UTC
Maine is part of New England, but New York isn't. It only got to be New Amsterdam.

As to English town names, Massachusetts has such places as Sheffield, Leicester, Worcester, Eastham, Marlboro, Oxford, Chatham, Leeds, Manchester, and, of course, Plymouth. Of course we also have places like Acushnet, Mattapoisett, Cotuit, Agawam, Mount Wachusett, Lake Cochichuit, and Lake Chargogagomanchagagogchabunagungamog,
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Posted: Friday, April 16, 2004 - 06:28 AM UTC

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. Of course we also have places like Acushnet, Mattapoisett, Cotuit, Agawam, Mount Wachusett, Lake Cochichuit, and Lake Chargogagomanchagagogchabunagungamog,



i take it those are native american names? or maybe that atrocious habit you americans have of mis-spelling english! :-)

cheers

joe
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Posted: Friday, April 16, 2004 - 06:53 AM UTC
You're just too quick for us! Chargogagomanchagagogchabunagungamog is how we spell London here. :-)
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Posted: Friday, April 16, 2004 - 06:55 AM UTC

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You're just too quick for us! Chargogagomanchagagogchabunagungamog is how we spell London here. :-)



well london is so full of foreigners thats probably how they spell it too! :-) :-) :-)

/says joe the rural northerner!

cheers

joe
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Posted: Friday, April 16, 2004 - 07:04 AM UTC

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Maine is part of New England, but New York isn't. It only got to be New Amsterdam.


Well, Maine used to be part of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts... some where's back around Day one.


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As to English town names, Massachusetts has such places as... Marlboro....



Butt officially it is spelled as "Marlborough" as in the "Duke of Marlborough" who ever that is.
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Posted: Friday, April 16, 2004 - 07:35 AM UTC
Eastern Mass here.. Can see Boston skyline from the end of my street...

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Posted: Friday, April 16, 2004 - 09:15 AM UTC
well in Ct we have Bristol,Cheshire,Greenwich,Guilford,Milford,Wallingford come to think of it a lot of fords.then we have the casinos in Uncasville and Ledyard which technically are sovereign nations.
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Posted: Friday, April 16, 2004 - 10:12 AM UTC
Don't forget New London. Uncasville...I have one of my soliders on an extended visit to a fine correctional institution there.
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Posted: Friday, April 16, 2004 - 12:04 PM UTC

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well in Ct we have Bristol,Cheshire,Greenwich,Guilford,Milford,Wallingford



Heck, you guys have New BRITAIN and that just about covers it all. :-)
But we also have Berlin, Peru and Florida, as well as Clinton while Maine has Poland.
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Posted: Friday, April 16, 2004 - 01:03 PM UTC
I live in NJ, the most evil old-people dominated state in the country, and the hardest laws regarding anything fun!
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Posted: Friday, April 16, 2004 - 04:25 PM UTC
To what I can't figure out is the way they spell some of the town name's versus pronouncing them. One day I was delivering a load to Worcester Ma., and I stopped at one of the toll plazas to use a phone to get directions into the place.
They said get off the turnpike and head torwards Wooster, and I said wait a minute, I never seen any town like that on the map, then they said, that is where we are at.
Then I asked them, how do they get Wooster out of Worcester, I said now in Ohio, we do have a Wooster, and it is spelled Wooster.
For them to get Wooster out of Worcester, somebody had to of had a speech impediment, and must of been in high standings, for nobody to ever change it.
Maybe the witch burning days.
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Posted: Friday, April 16, 2004 - 08:13 PM UTC

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To what I can't figure out is the way they spell some of the town name's versus pronouncing them. One day I was delivering a load to Worcester Ma., and I stopped at one of the toll plazas to use a phone to get directions into the place.
They said get off the turnpike and head torwards Wooster, and I said wait a minute, I never seen any town like that on the map, then they said, that is where we are at.
Then I asked them, how do they get Wooster out of Worcester, I said now in Ohio, we do have a Wooster, and it is spelled Wooster.
For them to get Wooster out of Worcester, somebody had to of had a speech impediment, and must of been in high standings, for nobody to ever change it.
Maybe the witch burning days.



i can answer that one, worchester is a town in england, and thats how its pronounced over here, so it seems to have stuck.

but then again whoever could make jersey sound like joysey must have a speach impediment! :-) :-)

cheers

joe
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Posted: Friday, April 16, 2004 - 11:30 PM UTC
Well to defend the State of New York from the Upper colonies we have bunches of names of English towns also plus the Distinction of having the First ,well here read this

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Duke of York
New York harbor was visited by Verrazano in 1524, and the Hudson River was first explored by Henry Hudson in 1609. The Dutch settled here permanently in 1624 and for 40 years they ruled over the colony of New Netherland. It was conquered by the English in 1664 and was then named New York in honor of the Duke of York.


Independence

Existing as a colony of Great Britain for over a century, New York declared its independence on July 9, 1776, becoming one of the original 13 states of the Federal Union. The next year, on April 20, 1777, New York's first constitution was adopted.



Revolutionary War

In many ways, New York State was the principal battleground of the Revolutionary War. Approximately one-third of the skirmishes and engagements of the war were fought on New York soil. The Battle of Saratoga, one of the decisive battles of the world, was the turning point of the Revolution leading to the French alliance and thus to eventual victory. New York City, long occupied by British troops, was evacuated on November 25, 1783. There, on December 4 at Fraunces Tavern, General George Washington bade farewell to his officers.




The first government of New York State

grew out of the Revolution. The State Convention that drew up the Constitution created a Council of Safety which governed for a time and set the new government in motion. In June 1777, while the war was going on, an election for the first governor took place. Two of the candidates, Philip Schuyler and George Clinton, were generals in the field. Two others, Colonel John Jay and General John Morin Scott, were respectively leaders of the aristocratic and democratic groups in the Convention. On July 9, George Clinton was declared elected and he was inaugurated as Governor at Kingston, July 30, 1777. Albany became the capital of the State in January 1797.


The First Capital of the New Nation


Alexander Hamilton was a leader in the movement which ended in the development of the Federal Constitution, and he was active in its ratification. New York City became the first capital of the new nation, where President George Washington was inaugurated on April 30, 1789.



all taken from the History of New York before 1900


Well sorry but I am a New Yorker at Heart

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Posted: Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 12:13 AM UTC

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For them to get Wooster out of Worcester, somebody had to of had a speech impediment, and must of been in high standings, for nobody to ever change it.



The correct pronunciation for "Worcester" is "Woosta". We do not allow the lettea "r" up heah in these pahts. Wicked pissa.

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Posted: Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 12:48 AM UTC
Hey Kevin,

Wheh did pahk the cah?

T. Chouman
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Posted: Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 12:52 AM UTC

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For them to get Wooster out of Worcester, somebody had to of had a speech impediment, and must of been in high standings, for nobody to ever change it.



The correct pronunciation for "Worcester" is "Woosta". We do not allow the lettea "r" up heah in these pahts. Wicked pissa.


Of course they pronounce the letter "R" up here. They just seem to put in in a different place. My daughter (named Elaina) always complains because the teachers call her "Elainer". I've also met a Dianer (Diana). They also drink something called a soder.
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Posted: Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 03:46 AM UTC
o.k. prove what kind of new new englander you are ,red sox or yankee's?for me its the red sox.
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Posted: Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 08:11 AM UTC

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Of course they pronounce the letter "R" up here. They just seem to put in in a different place. My daughter (named Elaina) always complains because the teachers call her "Elainer". I've also met a Dianer (Diana). They also drink something called a soder.



True. My bro calls his wife (Dana) Daner but they're way out west in the boonies of the Berkshires and I thought that it had something to do with the high altitude and thin air...
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Posted: Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 08:13 AM UTC

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Worcester Ma., .
They said get off the turnpike and head torwards Wooster, .



Well, you weren't talking to a local, then. The correct native pronunciation is "Wiss'tuh."
I know, I went to Wiss'tuh State College and used to belong to the Wiss'tuh County Scale Modelers Association. :-)
Where Kevin lives is not the same as being in town. Out there, there are towns like Clinton that are pronounced "Klih-in with a half beat space between the two sylables and Berlin which sounds like Burl' inn!
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Posted: Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 08:14 AM UTC

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Hey Kevin,

Wheh did pahk the cah?

T. Chouman



In the back of the bah....
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Posted: Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 08:21 AM UTC

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Hey Kevin,

Wheh did pahk the cah?

T. Chouman



In the back of the bah....



Where he's hahvin' a beeyah . Probably a 'Gansett!
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Posted: Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 11:59 AM UTC
I heard a lot of them say it over and over, and they all say the same thing, they make it sound just like the same as the town in Ohio which is spelled Wooster when they say it, at least everytime I ever heard it.
We had a guy that lived in Ma. and we argued over this for quite a while, so I got a buch of others from all other parts of the country to have him say Worcester in front of them to see what it sounded like to them when he said it, and they come to the same conclusion, that it sounded like he said Wooster,
Now we got some towns here in Ohio the same way, if you didn't grow up hearing their name, you would never be able to pronounce it, from spelling it, totally different.
Take Bellefontaine for instance, everybody I've seen read it try to pronounce it the way it is spelled, but everybody local calls it Bell fountain, but a new person trys to use the Fon- Tain, that is like NJ. has a Newark, and Ohio has one to, but the people in Newark Ohio call theirs Nerk, I even seen T shirts to the effect.
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Posted: Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 12:47 PM UTC

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o.k. prove what kind of new new englander you are ,red sox or yankee's?for me its the red sox.



Win or lose.... Yankees all the way for me my friend!
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Posted: Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 12:50 PM UTC
I'm a Bosox man myself. There are some Vermonters up north that do root for the Montreal Expos.