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Posted: Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 02:53 AM UTC
I am curious what Materazzi told Zidane that made him mad.
Clanky44
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Posted: Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 03:26 AM UTC
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I am curious what Materazzi told Zidane that made him mad.
I've watched ZZ play for years and years, and never have I seen that sort of reaction from him....... whatever was said must have been pretty offensive!..... For the good of the sport, lets hope it wasn't racially motivated.....
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Posted: Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 03:52 AM UTC
I'm not entirely surprised by ZZ blowing his top like that. Remember back in WC '98 he was suspended for two matches for stomping on a Saudi player well after the other man had gone to ground and the ball had moved on. Also, I remember him head-butting an offical in a Champions' League match back when he played for Juventus. It's been a while since he's lost his cool, but unfortuately ZZ chose to do so again on the biggest stage in the world during his final appearance. 
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Apart from Zidane's unfortunate 'blow-up' the game itself was a superb summary of what this edition of the World Cup symbolized - mediocre games punctuated by fifth-rate acting.
I was delighted by France getting to the final (in contrary to the predictions of the pundits) and the tragedy was that the cup was lifted by a side who can best be described as the antithesesis of the game I love.
Just why does Italy despise modern football so much that they do everything in their power to destroy it at both National and International level?
Just remember (George Orwell was presumably the copywriter on this one):
A thought to consider in the next four years....
I was delighted by France getting to the final (in contrary to the predictions of the pundits) and the tragedy was that the cup was lifted by a side who can best be described as the antithesesis of the game I love.
Just why does Italy despise modern football so much that they do everything in their power to destroy it at both National and International level?
Just remember (George Orwell was presumably the copywriter on this one):
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FIFA LOVES Football.
A thought to consider in the next four years....
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toadman1
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Too bad the game was decided by penalty kicks 
. FIFA should institute sudden death overtime instead. Play until someone scores, that's what I say.
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round of applause for italy
But iam quite decieved france missed that shot in the penalty kicks. the italian goaler kept going left if hte ball was going right...
ohh well, zidan's headbut wasn't something i expected, but applaud for after seeing how del piero tried faking injury to his crotch after falling.
Seems like another simple reason why iam no "football" fan. Personally, i find watching a man making millions of bucks fall to the floor, kick, moan, and cry like a little girl who had her hair pulled out obsered, especialy when the reaction was triggered by a wondering elbow. I don't see that too often in the cfl...
Frank
But iam quite decieved france missed that shot in the penalty kicks. the italian goaler kept going left if hte ball was going right...
ohh well, zidan's headbut wasn't something i expected, but applaud for after seeing how del piero tried faking injury to his crotch after falling.
Seems like another simple reason why iam no "football" fan. Personally, i find watching a man making millions of bucks fall to the floor, kick, moan, and cry like a little girl who had her hair pulled out obsered, especialy when the reaction was triggered by a wondering elbow. I don't see that too often in the cfl...
Frank
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Seems like another simple reason why iam no "football" fan. Personally, i find watching a man making millions of bucks fall to the floor, kick, moan, and cry like a little girl who had her hair pulled out obsered, especialy when the reaction was triggered by a wondering elbow. I don't see that too often in the cfl...
This could be a reason why most US citizens don't get excited over the type of football the rest of the world plays. Compared to American NFL football, watching the World Cup football game is like watching a scripted game of acting. I personally like soccer and have enjoyed playing in my younger days, however the dives and the faking falls and the rolling on the ground in shear agony for 30 seconds and then jumping right up and trotting off when no call is given makes me want to puke.
ZZ's headbutt on the other hand was real...not smart, but real none the less...I'll give him credit for that.
That's my rant. Congratulations to Italy anyway.
Best regards,
Gary
This could be a reason why most US citizens don't get excited over the type of football the rest of the world plays. Compared to American NFL football, watching the World Cup football game is like watching a scripted game of acting. I personally like soccer and have enjoyed playing in my younger days, however the dives and the faking falls and the rolling on the ground in shear agony for 30 seconds and then jumping right up and trotting off when no call is given makes me want to puke.
ZZ's headbutt on the other hand was real...not smart, but real none the less...I'll give him credit for that.
That's my rant. Congratulations to Italy anyway.
Best regards,
Gary
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Posted: Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 02:47 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextI am curious what Materazzi told Zidane that made him mad.
I've watched ZZ play for years and years, and never have I seen that sort of reaction from him....... whatever was said must have been pretty offensive!..... For the good of the sport, lets hope it wasn't racially motivated.....
It was, I feel a situation that was allowed to grow due to the other 'incident' diverting the referee's attention (was that the Del Pierro 'ball-bag' fiasco?). Despite his otherwise (generally) decent reffing (although he failed to give France their second penalty), I feel he shouldhave been aware of the development of the Zidane-Materazzi fracas before it reached flashpoint.
Materazzi obviously severely wound Zidane past breaking point, and whatever his past history, Zizou has managed on the whole, to laugh-off fouls and incidents during this competition (such as the shoulder injury earlier in the game). I hope that IF Materazzi's comments were beyond the pale, there will be some kind of FIFA action.
My tuppence worth.
The irony is of course that our house is Anglo-French, and both national teams suffered the same fate.
Eh bien.
MC
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Luis Figo headbutt, head to head contact =yellow card 
I know the reaction is clearly overdramatised, but the ref's action is for the INTENT...
I smacked a bloke harder than both on Saturday with a trailing arm as I breezed past him (ok, the ball managed to stick to my feet; )) Gave him a bloody gum and lip, and to his credit he reacted by getting in my ear about how 'deliberate' it was... Neither of us went to ground... He was a tosser though, and managed to receive 2 yellows and stay on field... Simunic maybe?
But hey congrats Italy. At least there has been some good fortune on an international level for them...
I know the reaction is clearly overdramatised, but the ref's action is for the INTENT...
I smacked a bloke harder than both on Saturday with a trailing arm as I breezed past him (ok, the ball managed to stick to my feet; )) Gave him a bloody gum and lip, and to his credit he reacted by getting in my ear about how 'deliberate' it was... Neither of us went to ground... He was a tosser though, and managed to receive 2 yellows and stay on field... Simunic maybe?
But hey congrats Italy. At least there has been some good fortune on an international level for them...
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Can't understand Bradley Saying Congrats after the cynical way Italians fell to the ground for a last minute penalty that put the Socceroo's out - the team that deserved to win that game.
I'm still bitter about it and i'm a POM
Andy
I'm still bitter about it and i'm a POM
Andy
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Can't understand Bradley Saying Congrats after the cynical way Italians fell to the ground for a last minute penalty that put the Socceroo's out - the team that deserved to win that game.
I'm still bitter about it and i'm a POM
Andy
hehe sorry mate, but that is thinly veiled sarcasm... That incident is the 'good fortune' I refer to...
Honeycut = #:-)
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Posted: Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 06:07 PM UTC
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I've watched ZZ play for years and years, and never have I seen that sort of reaction from him....... whatever was said must have been pretty offensive!..... For the good of the sport, lets hope it wasn't racially motivated.....
I Listened the Greek news saying that Materazzi told some offensive words about Zidane's mother and also told him "terrorist". I am not sure how true is this.
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It seems that ZZ will hold a news conference soon to tell his side of the incident..... should be interesting. What troubles me in these parts (listening to the radio programs this morning) is the onesided commentary being dished out stating that Zidane is a impulsive idiot... and he should of had some restraint....... Funny enough most of these comments where coming out of (I'm assuming) white folk..... I myself (being white) have no idea what it must be like to be taunted day in day out with racial slurs, we white folk cannot put ourselves into Zidanes' shoes (or any other african player). If these allegations are true that Zidane was baited by the Italians, then the whole of FIFA has the obligation to kick out and ban the Italian player. Kudos to Zidane, he seems to be the only one taking the FIFA stand of "Stamp out Racism" to heart (except his version read 'headbut out Racism')
FIFA = Hypocrisy
FIFA = Hypocrisy
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Posted: Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 10:53 PM UTC
Saw the head butt on You Tube. It reminded me of a good Pacers Pistons game...
Shaun
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Bradley
Never did get sarcasm !!!
Andy
Never did get sarcasm !!!
Andy
Kinggeorges
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Hello guys,
OUch.......after I have shouted everywhere we would crush Italian, I feel like a fool.
Nice match, we had the ball possesion and zidane missed a really good head (on the cage, not the one on Materazzi..). The Italians were really tired at the end...but we loose. That's fate, it was written, etc..I must say Italians fake and simulate less than ordinary.
Concerning Zizou : DO you think a man like him, one of the best player in the world, ordinary calm (except some wrongfull actions), give a headbut just for the pleasure, during the last international match of his life ?
I read in the guardian the explanation. Self explanatory :
Zidane first told Materazzi to stop pulling his shirt as the action was over. This ass hole of Materazzi told him, after nearly breaking his shirt by pulling on it, " you deserve it [auto-censored]er" Zidane passed his way and answered him "ok, ok, keep talking I doon't hear you" and Materazzi run after him and told him "you deserve it [auto-censored]er, you deserve it [auto-censored]ing porc of terrorist muslim, like the others muslim".................................................................................................................................ok I think this man is a real crap, a nazi, a bastard etc... I don't know FIFA rules but this man deserves a suspension, a blame, and...a headbut. When I first saw the action, I though Zizou was Dumbo..his last match..What the hell he's doing etc..But when I knew what the Spagetthi told him, I regret Zidane didn't gave him a buthead a little more higher, in the nose for example, breaking it with a little chance, or in the jaw with a KO. The last joke in France is Zidane missed two headbuts..........
I don't remember who previously wrote in the tread he cannot imagine what north african and Black players could feel face to racism. I 'm white and I'm not particularly pro Muslim or Black or strangers (I'm not cons anyway), but hey when those Bastard holligans treat them of Monkey and reproduce the monkey shouts when they enter the game, when during this worldcup Some Spanish players and the coatch make racist jokes on French black people (really funny because Turrham replied in the press in the headline "Hey, I'm not black !), and when during the final you hear during an hour and half you are a [auto-censored]ing muslim terrorist...must be hard.. This same hass holes are delighted when "Monkeys" score !!!
Lastly a kind comment for referee and the FIFA : you forbid the video for refering in the football match. That's why we had a goal refused against south Corea, and why we didn't have the second penalty against Italy (althought the first one wasn't justified). Ok that's your business, your choice and I don't discuss. But How do you know for Zidane Buthead ???. Why did you take so much time to give the red card. The other referees didn't see nothing...strange. I guess you should have ask for the video...FIFA (as it was earlier said) = Hypocrisis.
Jim : I agree with you, this world cup was nice, but not really an offensive one...
Chris : I agree too, penalty kick is too much hasard..let's play football until death..
A fed up French man.
Julien
Ps : I'm delighted some Italian players of this final will go in National 1 next season..they deserve it !
OUch.......after I have shouted everywhere we would crush Italian, I feel like a fool.
Nice match, we had the ball possesion and zidane missed a really good head (on the cage, not the one on Materazzi..). The Italians were really tired at the end...but we loose. That's fate, it was written, etc..I must say Italians fake and simulate less than ordinary.
Concerning Zizou : DO you think a man like him, one of the best player in the world, ordinary calm (except some wrongfull actions), give a headbut just for the pleasure, during the last international match of his life ?
I read in the guardian the explanation. Self explanatory :
Zidane first told Materazzi to stop pulling his shirt as the action was over. This ass hole of Materazzi told him, after nearly breaking his shirt by pulling on it, " you deserve it [auto-censored]er" Zidane passed his way and answered him "ok, ok, keep talking I doon't hear you" and Materazzi run after him and told him "you deserve it [auto-censored]er, you deserve it [auto-censored]ing porc of terrorist muslim, like the others muslim".................................................................................................................................ok I think this man is a real crap, a nazi, a bastard etc... I don't know FIFA rules but this man deserves a suspension, a blame, and...a headbut. When I first saw the action, I though Zizou was Dumbo..his last match..What the hell he's doing etc..But when I knew what the Spagetthi told him, I regret Zidane didn't gave him a buthead a little more higher, in the nose for example, breaking it with a little chance, or in the jaw with a KO. The last joke in France is Zidane missed two headbuts..........
I don't remember who previously wrote in the tread he cannot imagine what north african and Black players could feel face to racism. I 'm white and I'm not particularly pro Muslim or Black or strangers (I'm not cons anyway), but hey when those Bastard holligans treat them of Monkey and reproduce the monkey shouts when they enter the game, when during this worldcup Some Spanish players and the coatch make racist jokes on French black people (really funny because Turrham replied in the press in the headline "Hey, I'm not black !), and when during the final you hear during an hour and half you are a [auto-censored]ing muslim terrorist...must be hard.. This same hass holes are delighted when "Monkeys" score !!!
Lastly a kind comment for referee and the FIFA : you forbid the video for refering in the football match. That's why we had a goal refused against south Corea, and why we didn't have the second penalty against Italy (althought the first one wasn't justified). Ok that's your business, your choice and I don't discuss. But How do you know for Zidane Buthead ???. Why did you take so much time to give the red card. The other referees didn't see nothing...strange. I guess you should have ask for the video...FIFA (as it was earlier said) = Hypocrisis.
Jim : I agree with you, this world cup was nice, but not really an offensive one...
Chris : I agree too, penalty kick is too much hasard..let's play football until death..
A fed up French man.
Julien
Ps : I'm delighted some Italian players of this final will go in National 1 next season..they deserve it !
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Posted: Monday, July 10, 2006 - 01:48 AM UTC
LOooooooooll
"auto-censored", that's why Materazzi should have done !
I give you a clue : it starts with an F and end with a C....
Julien
"auto-censored", that's why Materazzi should have done !
I give you a clue : it starts with an F and end with a C....
Julien
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Sorry a K.
Ok, I stop..
Ok, I stop..
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I don't pretend to understand anything about the popularity Euro-football but it looks as if Italy is having a great time celebrating victory
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keenan
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Moderator test.
Shaun
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Posted: Monday, July 10, 2006 - 01:39 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Hello guys,
OUch.......after I have shouted everywhere we would crush Italian, I feel like a fool.
Nice match, we had the ball possesion and zidane missed a really good head (on the cage, not the one on Materazzi..). The Italians were really tired at the end...but we loose. That's fate, it was written, etc..I must say Italians fake and simulate less than ordinary.
Concerning Zizou : DO you think a man like him, one of the best player in the world, ordinary calm (except some wrongfull actions), give a headbut just for the pleasure, during the last international match of his life ?
I read in the guardian the explanation. Self explanatory :
Zidane first told Materazzi to stop pulling his shirt as the action was over. This ass hole of Materazzi told him, after nearly breaking his shirt by pulling on it, " you deserve it [auto-censored]er" Zidane passed his way and answered him "ok, ok, keep talking I doon't hear you" and Materazzi run after him and told him "you deserve it [auto-censored]er, you deserve it [auto-censored]ing porc of terrorist muslim, like the others muslim".................................................................................................................................ok I think this man is a real crap, a nazi, a bastard etc... I don't know FIFA rules but this man deserves a suspension, a blame, and...a headbut. When I first saw the action, I though Zizou was Dumbo..his last match..What the hell he's doing etc..But when I knew what the Spagetthi told him, I regret Zidane didn't gave him a buthead a little more higher, in the nose for example, breaking it with a little chance, or in the jaw with a KO. The last joke in France is Zidane missed two headbuts..........
I don't remember who previously wrote in the tread he cannot imagine what north african and Black players could feel face to racism. I 'm white and I'm not particularly pro Muslim or Black or strangers (I'm not cons anyway), but hey when those Bastard holligans treat them of Monkey and reproduce the monkey shouts when they enter the game, when during this worldcup Some Spanish players and the coatch make racist jokes on French black people (really funny because Turrham replied in the press in the headline "Hey, I'm not black !), and when during the final you hear during an hour and half you are a [auto-censored]ing muslim terrorist...must be hard.. This same hass holes are delighted when "Monkeys" score !!!
Lastly a kind comment for referee and the FIFA : you forbid the video for refering in the football match. That's why we had a goal refused against south Corea, and why we didn't have the second penalty against Italy (althought the first one wasn't justified). Ok that's your business, your choice and I don't discuss. But How do you know for Zidane Buthead ???. Why did you take so much time to give the red card. The other referees didn't see nothing...strange. I guess you should have ask for the video...FIFA (as it was earlier said) = Hypocrisis.
Jim : I agree with you, this world cup was nice, but not really an offensive one...
Chris : I agree too, penalty kick is too much hasard..let's play football until death..
A fed up French man.
Julien
Ps : I'm delighted some Italian players of this final will go in National 1 next season..they deserve it !
There is no excuse for what he did thats, Zidickhead, if at that level you lent some one get to your game by just say a few words about his mother, take a tissue or dummy with you , he's is meant to be a pro!
Kinggeorges
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Posted: Monday, July 10, 2006 - 01:48 PM UTC
First, you don't call him Zidickhead, Ok ?
Second, for your instruction, just watch this video on Materrazi. Do you think he is professional ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKGcUr0S-FU
J
Second, for your instruction, just watch this video on Materrazi. Do you think he is professional ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKGcUr0S-FU
J
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