Pretty neat article. It's all about the perceived tone...
Link:
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70179-0.html?tw=rss.index
Shaun
/hat tip fark.com
// And my ability to spell "preceived"
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What causes flame wars (really)
keenan

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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 08:44 PM UTC
GunTruck

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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 09:22 PM UTC
- I agree with the short and direct information written in that article.(can you hear the tone in my head?)
Gunnie

Grumpyoldman

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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 09:25 PM UTC
I agree also....
Can't hear the tone in your head Jim....
the voices in mine are making too much noise.....
Can't hear the tone in your head Jim....
the voices in mine are making too much noise.....
Halfyank

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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 09:53 PM UTC
I totally agree with this article. In my work I "chat" online with people from all over the world. Many times I have to remind myself of things like this so I don't take personally something somebody might write me.
For example if somebody writes "thanks for nothing!" I can be pretty sure they're not happy with me. But they could be writing English as a second language and be confused as to what that can be read as. Much harder is when somebody writers, "thanks a lot!." Even with the explanation point it's hard to know what they are meaning by that. Are they being sarcastic, and they really mean the obosite of what they write, or are they really thanking me for a job well done?
Either way before anybody gets involved in a flame war you need to step back, and make sure what the other person is saying is what you're assuming they are saying.
For example if somebody writes "thanks for nothing!" I can be pretty sure they're not happy with me. But they could be writing English as a second language and be confused as to what that can be read as. Much harder is when somebody writers, "thanks a lot!." Even with the explanation point it's hard to know what they are meaning by that. Are they being sarcastic, and they really mean the obosite of what they write, or are they really thanking me for a job well done?
Either way before anybody gets involved in a flame war you need to step back, and make sure what the other person is saying is what you're assuming they are saying.
airwarrior

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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 10:01 PM UTC
Thats where I think emoticons (smileys) can help alot, like this, using Rodger's example
Thanks a lot!
Or
Thanks alot!
Which one do you think feels that they have gotten no help?
hmmm..... maybe missing-lynx needs it's own set of smileys.....
Thanks a lot!
Or
Thanks alot!
Which one do you think feels that they have gotten no help?

hmmm..... maybe missing-lynx needs it's own set of smileys.....
keenan

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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 10:10 PM UTC
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Either way before anybody gets involved in a flame war you need to step back, and make sure what the other person is saying is what you're assuming they are saying.
And what exactly do you mean by that?
Shaun
Cuhail

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Posted: Monday, February 13, 2006 - 12:50 AM UTC
How about...
Go stuff a hatch!
Bwa ha ha ha ha!
How about us starting a "compliment war"?
Like...
Jim, YOUR WEBSITE ROCKS!!!!!!!!! YOU AWESOME SON-OF-A-MODELING WEBSITE GODDESS!!!!!
GRUMPY IS OLD AND YET SOOOOOOOOO STILL WITH US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wouldn't that be a switch?
Flame wars...pshaw!
Cuhail
Go stuff a hatch!
Bwa ha ha ha ha!
How about us starting a "compliment war"?
Like...
Jim, YOUR WEBSITE ROCKS!!!!!!!!! YOU AWESOME SON-OF-A-MODELING WEBSITE GODDESS!!!!!
GRUMPY IS OLD AND YET SOOOOOOOOO STILL WITH US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wouldn't that be a switch?
Flame wars...pshaw!
Cuhail
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Posted: Monday, February 13, 2006 - 02:16 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextEither way before anybody gets involved in a flame war you need to step back, and make sure what the other person is saying is what you're assuming they are saying.
And what exactly do you mean by that?
Shaun
He's say that you need to check what the person actually said and not just scimming through, and making assumptions....
Posted: Monday, February 13, 2006 - 04:47 AM UTC
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He's say that you need to check what the person actually said and not just scimming through, and making assumptions....
But shirley people observantly read each post from the start of a thread, and consider their responses likewise?
:-)
Halfyank

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Posted: Monday, February 13, 2006 - 04:59 AM UTC
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But shirley people observantly read each post from the start of a thread, and consider their responses likewise?![]()
:-)
They don't and stop calling us Shirley. :-)
Posted: Monday, February 13, 2006 - 05:08 AM UTC
Wait, did I just make an assumption?
Grumpyoldman

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Posted: Monday, February 13, 2006 - 05:50 AM UTC
I found the best way to end them is just to ignor them.
Never been a Shirley, but dated one-once... :-)
Hell of a day to give up model cement.
Never been a Shirley, but dated one-once... :-)
Hell of a day to give up model cement.
keenan

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Posted: Monday, February 13, 2006 - 06:29 AM UTC
Max, Where you been? You have anything geared up for the March IPMS deal?
Let my wife know...
Shaun
Posted: Monday, February 13, 2006 - 06:50 AM UTC
Changing the subject is another good way of setting things off...
Halfyank

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Posted: Monday, February 13, 2006 - 06:59 AM UTC
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Hell of a day to give up model cement.
Bingo, somebody actually caught my reference. I can't tell you how many times people I'm chatting with have said, "roger Rodger."
Took an old fart like Grumpy to catch it.
keenan

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Posted: Monday, February 13, 2006 - 07:00 AM UTC
Henk, I did the whole
thing. What more can you ask for? Now you are just being unreasonable. Did you have a bad day at work?
Shaun
/Still signing my name
//Still just kidding
///Still loving the slashies
thing. What more can you ask for? Now you are just being unreasonable. Did you have a bad day at work?Shaun
/Still signing my name
//Still just kidding
///Still loving the slashies
Posted: Monday, February 13, 2006 - 09:31 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted Text
Hell of a day to give up model cement.
Bingo, somebody actually caught my reference. I can't tell you how many times people I'm chatting with have said, "roger Rodger."
Took an old fart like Grumpy to catch it.
I agree.
"Oh,oh,.....just kidding!..."
Grumpyoldman

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Posted: Monday, February 13, 2006 - 05:07 PM UTC
Thanks for my morning laughs guys after a long night at work.......
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