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Posted: Monday, January 16, 2006 - 06:01 PM UTC
Hi to All

I have the following dilema, and I would like to receive your input as on how to solve it for my next model...

The model: F18 Hornet 1/48 Italeri

The Problem: My cockpit fogged up after applying superglue to attach it to the fuselage.

My Guess #1: I'm guessing that because I stored the superglue in the fridge (to prolong life (sez so on the bottle)), it fogged my model...

My Guess #2: The fogging happened due to excess water vapour on the cockpit when I glued it

My Guess #3: I used too mush superglue?

My Question: WHAT HAPPENED? What did I do wrong?

And now...

The Question #1: Do not use thinner or turpentine on the cockpit, right?



Regards

Dieter
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Posted: Monday, January 16, 2006 - 06:15 PM UTC
Super Glue fogs clear plastic.
It's the vapor/fumes that does it.
Sometimes dipping the clear part in future, and letting the future cure, and the use of super glue applied carefully, and sparingly it will not fog. Also a fan used blowing fresh air across the model sometimes helps it not fog. Closed canopies are the worse for fogging since the vapors really can't escape before fogging happens.
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Posted: Monday, January 16, 2006 - 06:20 PM UTC
I’ve heard that you can lightly sand the part with very fine sand paper and then polish it with toothpaste to get rid of the fog but I have never tried it.

For glueing clear parts you can try using Elmer’s (white) glue. It wound fog up the clear parts.
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Posted: Monday, January 16, 2006 - 06:27 PM UTC
Depending on how badly the canopy has been affected, dip it in ( or brush on) a coat of Future ( or Johnson Klear as it's called in the U.K.). It worked on the windscreen of the Dragon Wagon I'm building.

Cheers
Henk
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Posted: Monday, January 16, 2006 - 06:33 PM UTC
Thats 2 lessons we all learn......

don't use superglue on clear parts

and

Don't wash them with thinner

I myself am a big fan of Testors Clear parts glue...

Orffer
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Posted: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:31 AM UTC
Thank you all for responding!

I appreciated the last comment made, that everyone makes the same two mistakes!

Well, they say that 50% of the population make mistakes and the other 50% learn from other's mistakes!

Should that be the case... I'm one of those guys that WILL make the mistakes and is thus part of the first 50%!

On the suggestion of the white glue... I should have thought about it!

Well, I have to learn somehow, and that's what Armorama is for! I learn from the BEST!

Regards
Dieter
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 05:30 AM UTC
Did the same thing once. Tried the toothpaste method to clean it up. Didn't work. I use white glue now.
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 11:48 AM UTC
I find using liquid cement is alot cleaner than super glue especially when assembling clear parts. Ones like the Tamiya cement is something i would recommend. Never experienced any sort of fogging whatsoever.
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 06:13 PM UTC
I'm in Jarrods camp - Use a bit of white glue.
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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 02:16 AM UTC
I find Micro-Crystal clear works even better than white glue and dries perfectly clear. 2 cents
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