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umustb
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Posted: Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 06:14 PM UTC
I was thinking, since there're so many different types of weathering involved in scale modelling... Maybe we can share inputs on which are the types of weathering techniques you use to turn your tank/aircraft/battleship/spacecraft/etc... into a piece of well used machine!
Mind sharing?? Post the techniques you best use to make paint chips/dirt/rust/rain streaks/etc..
Mind sharing?? Post the techniques you best use to make paint chips/dirt/rust/rain streaks/etc..
SpiritsEye
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Posted: Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 09:17 PM UTC
Since this is a very broad topic, i'll start by sharing my method of dirtying the tracks.
I'll first paint the tracks (regardless if they're indi-link or vinyl) with a mixture of Tamiya Aluminium and Flat black.
Once it's dry, i'll wash the tracks with very diluted Flat brown/earth paint (to depict rust or dirt). Sometimes after this step, i might add in pigments to enhance the look.
That's about it.
I'll first paint the tracks (regardless if they're indi-link or vinyl) with a mixture of Tamiya Aluminium and Flat black.
Once it's dry, i'll wash the tracks with very diluted Flat brown/earth paint (to depict rust or dirt). Sometimes after this step, i might add in pigments to enhance the look.
That's about it.
Danial
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 12:15 AM UTC
Psyfool
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 04:46 AM UTC
Very timely thread! I just completed weathering my T34/76. Here's some pix. This tank will be the main piece of my 'Push To Berlin' dio.
Danial
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 10:45 AM UTC
wow! superb weathering...seems like ur up to some project..'push to berlin' nice one....post up the ready product man...
jazza
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 12:20 PM UTC
Hi fellow singaporeans!
Been awhile since i went back but hope its ok for me pop into this community from time to time.
Anyway to contribute to this thread, here is the technique i use for weathering. Check out this article.
Weathering AFVs - Step by Step
Been awhile since i went back but hope its ok for me pop into this community from time to time.
Anyway to contribute to this thread, here is the technique i use for weathering. Check out this article.
Weathering AFVs - Step by Step
umustb
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 03:38 PM UTC
Welcome Jazza! Do drop by our little forum once a while.. we are more than happy to welcome the occasional guest.
Great posts we have here.. I've read both the ML link article posted by Daniel & the IPMSStockholm article posted by Jazza. Very informative.
Danny... mind sharing the percentage % of paints mixed? What I can imagine would be a silvery black track...
Psyfool... very nice Russian Green Machine..
.. I mean T34/76. But i'm just curious... are you trying to depict rust or dirt.. It looks rather "redish" from the photo.. so i'm guessing rust here (correct me if i'm wrong).. what did you use? Pastel chalk? 
Oh.. btw.. remember to secure those "accessories" by the side of the tank..
P.S. Sorry for cramping all my reply into one post.
Great posts we have here.. I've read both the ML link article posted by Daniel & the IPMSStockholm article posted by Jazza. Very informative.
Danny... mind sharing the percentage % of paints mixed? What I can imagine would be a silvery black track...
Psyfool... very nice Russian Green Machine..
.. I mean T34/76. But i'm just curious... are you trying to depict rust or dirt.. It looks rather "redish" from the photo.. so i'm guessing rust here (correct me if i'm wrong).. what did you use? Pastel chalk? Oh.. btw.. remember to secure those "accessories" by the side of the tank..
P.S. Sorry for cramping all my reply into one post.
Psyfool
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2005 - 03:07 AM UTC
JM, I guess I'm depicting rust rather than dirt. As this dio will be near the end of the war, the tank shd be rather beaten up by then. Thanx for reminding me to do the tie downs for the stowage. Probably, this dio will be a bigger one if I have the resources. 2 dios that combine into 1 big dio, like my approach to stalingrad dio. I don't tink it will be ready that soon though.. 
umustb
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2005 - 04:56 PM UTC
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2 dios that combine into 1 big dio
that will be interesting to see..
btw, what kit is that tank (T34/76)?
Psyfool
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Posted: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 02:58 AM UTC
It's the old Tamiya kit. But quite good actually. 
SpiritsEye
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2005 - 02:12 AM UTC
Hi JM,
I'm not very sure of the ratio, as i 'eye-balled' it.
I think it should be around 70% (black) + 30% (Aluminium)
It's more to the black colour with a silverish tint to it.
I'm not very sure of the ratio, as i 'eye-balled' it.
I think it should be around 70% (black) + 30% (Aluminium)
It's more to the black colour with a silverish tint to it.
eerie
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2005 - 04:45 AM UTC
Well, metallic silver stuff works for me, cos i like rust and scratch paint.
And side track, Jazza was a combat engineer during his NS. He knows quite a sum on explosives
And side track, Jazza was a combat engineer during his NS. He knows quite a sum on explosives
DAK
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2005 - 12:32 PM UTC
Greetings all, this is my 1st post in this forum. Found it while Googleing around LOL!!
Great thread this is. I build 1/35 armour too and this thread seems to answer some of my long time query.
Psyfool, what a great looking T34 you have there! Nice weathering! And I like it that you also work on the skirtings to make it looks worn. Nice touches. Did you use airbrush to apply those brown streaks on? Or you used various methods ie wash then dry brush etc?
I have one more query on technique for weathering. How do you do paint peel effect? Don't tell me you guys painted the darker underpaint bit by bit onto the model with a fine tipped brush? Thank you in advance for any information
Once again, a nice little forum you have here.
Great thread this is. I build 1/35 armour too and this thread seems to answer some of my long time query.
Psyfool, what a great looking T34 you have there! Nice weathering! And I like it that you also work on the skirtings to make it looks worn. Nice touches. Did you use airbrush to apply those brown streaks on? Or you used various methods ie wash then dry brush etc?
I have one more query on technique for weathering. How do you do paint peel effect? Don't tell me you guys painted the darker underpaint bit by bit onto the model with a fine tipped brush? Thank you in advance for any information
Once again, a nice little forum you have here.
SpiritsEye
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2005 - 04:04 PM UTC
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I have one more query on technique for weathering. How do you do paint peel effect? Don't tell me you guys painted the darker underpaint bit by bit onto the model with a fine tipped brush? Thank you in advance for any information
Hi Yee.
Welcome to our little community!
For me, i always use a fine tipped brush to paint on the 'chipped' paints.
There is also the 'salt method' but that in my opinion will make the tank look too overdone.
umustb
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2005 - 04:34 PM UTC
Hi Bro... check out the link posted by Mr Iwillkickurass on paint chips..
Paint Chips (same site as Mr Iwillkickurass..)
Paint Chips (same site as Mr Iwillkickurass..)
DAK
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2005 - 05:48 PM UTC
Hi Danny, thank you very much for the pointer
I've always thought of experimenting paint chip on my vehicle but am just toooo lazy to do anything about it. In fact, I have tried on some occassion using fine tip brush but I cannot get the effect that I wanted. Do you mind to please elaborate more on the "Salt method" that you mentioned? A link also can
Hi JM, thanks for the link! Have aready bookmarked it but haven't read yet. Maybe the "Salt method" is mentioned there too.
I've always thought of experimenting paint chip on my vehicle but am just toooo lazy to do anything about it. In fact, I have tried on some occassion using fine tip brush but I cannot get the effect that I wanted. Do you mind to please elaborate more on the "Salt method" that you mentioned? A link also can
Hi JM, thanks for the link! Have aready bookmarked it but haven't read yet. Maybe the "Salt method" is mentioned there too.
Psyfool
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2005 - 09:24 PM UTC
Hi Yee! Nope I don't have an airbrush as the rest might have known by now. 
The weathering r done by brush. The rust i used Rust color & Brown pastel powder. Paint chips r done by fine tip brush. As for salt method, I've tried it before on my 1/32 Zero fighter.
The weathering r done by brush. The rust i used Rust color & Brown pastel powder. Paint chips r done by fine tip brush. As for salt method, I've tried it before on my 1/32 Zero fighter. SpiritsEye
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2005 - 10:19 PM UTC
Hi Yee
Basically the 'salt technique' is to use salt to help chipped the paintwork.
Apply some salt onto the undercoat or primer colour. Then paint on the base coat or camouflage over the applied salt.
After everything dries, remove the salt and then it will reveal the colour beneath the 2nd layer of paint.
Basically the 'salt technique' is to use salt to help chipped the paintwork.
Apply some salt onto the undercoat or primer colour. Then paint on the base coat or camouflage over the applied salt.
After everything dries, remove the salt and then it will reveal the colour beneath the 2nd layer of paint.
umustb
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Posted: Friday, September 30, 2005 - 11:19 PM UTC
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Apply some salt onto the undercoat or primer colour. Then paint on the base coat or camouflage over the applied salt.
You mean the salt has the ability to "stick" onto the not dry basecoat??
DAK
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 12:47 AM UTC
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Hi Yee
Basically the 'salt technique' is to use salt to help chipped the paintwork.
Apply some salt onto the undercoat or primer colour. Then paint on the base coat or camouflage over the applied salt.
After everything dries, remove the salt and then it will reveal the colour beneath the 2nd layer of paint.
Thanks!! Great info and thank you all for your kind help
Psyfool - you used brush only you say? That is awesome effect you achieve with just brush... *sharp salute*!
I suppose when we uses salt method, we will have to use spray or something. Because if you used brush, the salt will "run" around and not get that "shield" effect.
SpiritsEye
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 01:02 AM UTC
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Quoted TextApply some salt onto the undercoat or primer colour. Then paint on the base coat or camouflage over the applied salt.
You mean the salt has the ability to "stick" onto the not dry basecoat??
Sorry,
I forgot to mention that you have to soak the salt crystals before applying onto the surface, wet salt sticks well.
This method is only for airbrushing.
umustb
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 01:58 AM UTC
Roger that.. thanks for the clearing that one.. 
Psyfool
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 08:20 AM UTC
Danny is spot on. That's the 'Salt Method' clearly explained. I'll post some pix of my Zero fighter which I experimented with the Salt Method. The result is juz O.K though. U guyz be the judge.
Psyfool
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 02:29 PM UTC
O.K as promised, here's my Hasegawa 1/32 Zero Fighter 'with a pinch of Salt'. How? This was an experiment as i really wanted to make a Zero fighter with paint chipping off all over as seen in photos. Not sure if i will try this method on a tank though.
umustb
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 05:32 PM UTC
I think you added a little too much salt..
But it still looks good.. THanks for the picture
But it still looks good.. THanks for the picture
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