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Modeling in General: Weathering
Discuss general weathering topics here.
Has anyone tried this technique?
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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 08:05 AM UTC
Hey I just wondered if anyone here has already tried out the following weathering technique:
You apply lots and lots of small drops of oil paint onto the unweathered surface of the model.
The colours must be really bright: green, blue, red yellow, not the typical weathering colours like burnt umber or so.
After this you take a soft brush that was dipped in lighter fluid or terpentine and brush the model carefully so that only very few paint is left, the rest can be wiped off with a tissue or something similar.
In my oppinion this is great to give bigger surfaces a nice and interesting look.
How about you? Ever tested this? Do you like it or do you prefer other techniques?
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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 08:17 AM UTC
Do you have any photos showing the results? Would love to see the process.
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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 08:24 AM UTC
I explained this technique, with pictures, in the latest issue of MMiR. Here is a sample.





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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 08:29 AM UTC
Ekke, it's a well-tried technique for applying filters, and has been explained and show-cased in most magazines. It basically applies filters that can't actually be discerned at the concious level but do give an overall impression of a well-faded or worn look.

Vinnie
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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 08:33 AM UTC
Short answer, yes. I use this with everything I build. Helps break up the monochromatic (my $20 word for the day :-) ) look of a lot of builds. "Q"
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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 09:10 AM UTC

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I explained this technique, with pictures, in the latest issue of MMiR.



Would it be possible to hear the short version here on Armorama? It does look interesting... I don't think those are filters. Am I wrong?

Mario.
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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 10:14 AM UTC
I'd be really interested in seeing any intermediate steps between having all the dots, and the finished product. I can't visualize doing it this way. I might ask Matt to show this the next club meeting he can make it to.

By the way, what the heck is that vehicle? Looks like some kind of German Amtrack.

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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 06:10 PM UTC
I have never heard of this technique. The result, on Sticky's model, speaks for it self. Very impressive.
I sure would like to know more, about how to get from all those dots, to the finished result.
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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 08:59 PM UTC
Jesper, I'm sure if you enter 'filter' and 'model' to Google you'll find a detailed article somewhere. In short, paint the base colour using your normal Acrylic. When totally dry, wet thouroughly with white spirit, and as the pictures show, place small dots of raw oil paint at random over the surface. Now use a brush soaked in turps or white spirit to drag the dots of oil paint downwards. Make sure he brush is not 'dripping', i.e. dry the excess white spirit off with a piece of tissue. Keep doing this until it is very difficult, almost impossible to 'see' the oil paint on the surface. Neddless to say, practice first, and perform on small areas at a time. You'll like the result.
Oh, and Mario? They are filters. Of one type. There are other ways.

Vinnie
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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 09:12 PM UTC
i never heard of this method before.
How long we have to wait/leave the oil spots??
or we drag the dots immidieatly after they're applied??
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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 09:25 PM UTC
You do it straight away.

Vinnie
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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 09:31 PM UTC

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By the way, what the heck is that vehicle? Looks like some kind of German Amtrack.



it's called a 'wasserschlepper' (spelling?) or something... a german amphibious vehicle supposed to cross the english channel in Operation Sealion (invasion of britain) 1940.... but the luftwaffe failed to beat RAF so the invasion was cancelled.
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Posted: Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 11:46 PM UTC
hmmm never heard of this technique either. Based on the pictures alone, i really cant see the actual effect. If anyone knows the link to read the article, do pass it on.
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Posted: Friday, September 16, 2005 - 04:29 AM UTC
The vehicle is a Panzerfahre - an armored amphibious tractor. Unfortunatly the article is not online, only in print in the magizine Military Minatures in Review. I don't think the publisher would take too kindly to me posting the text on the web, he has kindly allowed me to post article pictures. I'm not sure if Mig has an web based article, so maybe someone else can hlep.
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Posted: Friday, September 16, 2005 - 04:37 AM UTC

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I'd be really interested in seeing any intermediate steps between having all the dots, and the finished product.



Yes, I would like to see it in steps as well.
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Posted: Friday, September 16, 2005 - 04:42 AM UTC

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place small dots of raw oil paint at random over the surface. Now use a brush soaked in turps or white spirit to drag the dots of oil paint downwards. Make sure he brush is not 'dripping', i.e. dry the excess white spirit off with a piece of tissue. Keep doing this until it is very difficult, almost impossible to 'see' the oil paint on the surfaceVinnie



Aahhhhh...I see! I've been doing sort of the same thing with artists chalks and just not realizing it is sort of the same thing.... well what do you know!
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Posted: Friday, September 16, 2005 - 04:50 AM UTC
Would someone be kind enough to do a feature on this?

Vinnie, since you've been the most forthcoming, does it matter what colours the dots are? And why?
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Posted: Friday, September 16, 2005 - 05:53 AM UTC
David, I really don't think which colours you use actually do matter. I've used all sorts, including different reds, greens etc. The main point is to apply chromatic filters to the finish. You can't actually 'see' the colours when you've finished. Just an impression of them. I know, it sounds whacky.......but it works! It just breaks up what would otherwise be a totally monochromatic finish.

Vinnie
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Posted: Friday, September 16, 2005 - 06:00 AM UTC
I have used the technique. it was referred to as "melting oils" in one of the early issues of Armor Models.
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Posted: Friday, September 16, 2005 - 06:35 AM UTC

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The vehicle is a Panzerfahre - an armored amphibious tractor. Unfortunatly the article is not online, only in print in the magizine Military Minatures in Review. I don't think the publisher would take too kindly to me posting the text on the web, he has kindly allowed me to post article pictures. I'm not sure if Mig has an web based article, so maybe someone else can hlep.



I totally understand that John. Could you tell us which issue it's in? If it's still available I'd be interested in reading it.

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Posted: Friday, September 16, 2005 - 07:10 AM UTC
I use this technique alot ...mostly I use it to creat the effect of rain streaking and all kinds of wear and tear...
I did explain this technique way back when I did my Famo..it might help a bit to understand how I did it ..

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/6296&page=1

Rick
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Posted: Friday, September 16, 2005 - 09:02 AM UTC
Mig Jiminez has an article on this technique somewhere on his site.
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Posted: Friday, September 16, 2005 - 03:44 PM UTC
Is this technique possible with enamels?
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Posted: Friday, September 16, 2005 - 06:02 PM UTC
I really don't think you should try it with enamels. They just wouldn't blend enough.

Vinnie
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Posted: Friday, September 16, 2005 - 06:15 PM UTC
OK, Vinnie. seems worth some testing out though for all those OD/OG vehicles.
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