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How much did you pay for gas today?
PLMP110
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Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 03:31 PM UTC
Well you guys made me feel better about the $2.49 I paid per gallon today. I guess as bad as I thought that was, it could be worse.

The really bad part about the fuel prices is now the retailers are shifting delivery cost increases on to the consumer. Now it costs more to drive to the grocery store to buy milk that is more expensive because of fuel prices. Where does it end?

Patrick
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Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 04:49 PM UTC
Gas prices droped a bit today, here in Denmark. Today it is only 6,25$ a gallon.

Luckely I work only 3 miles, from home, so I can ride my bicycle to work.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 08:04 PM UTC
I am so glad I don't have to pay for fuel for my big rig I saw in USA Today two days back that diesel was over $3 a gallon in California
Some truckers are finding it harder to make a profit anymore The shippers/recievers are generally paying a "fuel surcharge" to help offset the cost of moving the products It helps some

The bad part is that the cost of goods goes up Alternate fuel sounds great in theory In reality? Ok it will be better for the environment But what will the cost to us working class stiffs be?

How many of us will be able to afford it? I have a feeling it's gonna get worse before it gets better I am losing miles because of the higher cost of diesel The trucking companies are shipping more stuff by rail than ever before

Less miles I drive=less pay Here is something ironic About two years ago the EPA made the diesel engine makers make an engine that puts out less "poluttants" than previous years engines Guess what? Those type of engines get less fuel mileage I am lucky to get 5 MPG
Ross
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Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 09:00 PM UTC
Here in Portsmouth UK, I buy diesel @ 92.9 pence per litre which is 15p per litre more than this tome last year
That equates to US$6.20 per US gallon. My car averages 40mpg (Imperial Gallon) so costs about 10 pence per mile to drive, this is 18cents (US) per mile.

How does that compare to your per mile cost? I have to drive 200 miles per week to work with no really viable alternative. By the way in the UK the train is more expensive than going by car anywhere and contrary to many claims generally less fuel efficient per person mile.

Ross
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 01:05 AM UTC
I'm doing all of my errands and joy riding on my bicycle. I've got the time. I don't have a problem walking into a bank etc with a small ruck on my back, helmet on my head (or in hand) and dripping of sweat. Winter will be another story but, I will ride as deep into it as I can. (I quit smoking almost 2 yrs ago and I'm feeling like an older Superman.)

(If you are driving thru the Marlborough MA area, (pop. 40,000+) please do try NOT to knock me off the road!)

A tank of gas in my small PU is lasting me 3-4 weeks and my wife's daily commute to work is 10 mi RT but... it still hurts at the pump.

Heating oil is pre-purchased (up to 600gals) and will max out at US$2.68 per gal. Delivery yesterday @ $2.19. We (I) keep it cool in the house and being married for 26+ years... I'm used to seeing my Mrs. all wrapped up during winter anyway.
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 01:57 AM UTC
$2.63 here but it is climbing. I've seen it as high as $2.85. The thing that really irks me more than the high gas prices is that I still see people patronizing gas stations that sell gas at the higher prices, even though there is another gas station two blocks away selling it for 10-15 cents cheaper! I did see a report on the news a few days ago that said that, on average, 44% of the $2.60+ prices goes to oil and 15% goes to the gas station itself for marketing and profits. I can't remember the other percents; these were the ones that stuck out.
Kyle
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 02:26 AM UTC
Norway: 1 litre of 95 octan unleaded= 1,7 US Dollars.

Do the math yourselves. This is expencive

Erik
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 04:06 AM UTC
$2.54 in Cleveland, Ohio
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 06:26 AM UTC
Gas is at $2.75 a gallon at my station today. The shell down the street is going for $2.85 for reg unleaded and over $3.00 for high test.
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 06:43 AM UTC
Some interesting PDF files at the link below. Find out how much you pay in your state per gallon in taxes. Indiana is 16 cpg plus 6% of the total. That is just state taxes.

Some interesting stuff.

Shaun

http://api-ec.api.org/AdvancedSearch.cfm
matt
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 07:22 AM UTC
WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOO 42.6 c per gal taxes... Highest in the country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Glad I live near a indian reservation...... :-)
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 07:29 AM UTC
While our European brethern are "semi-mocking" us for complaining about high gas prices, there are factors that they forget. I live here in Texas. The state is as big as half of Europe. The city I live in is known to us as the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex. from east to west the city measures 80 miles and from north to south around 60 with growth soon to take in a couple more cities . Traveling to work is usually 25 miles one way. At one time I commuted 42 miles one way. We put an average of 400-500 miles (650-800 km) a week on our cars. Now granted big sport utility vehicles are quite popular here but our fuel mileage is not as goodas the average European car(though I suspect it will be soon). Riding the bus is an alterative, but getting to work would be a 2 hour each way commute. Travling that far on a little motorbike doesn't make sense either. In this country things are much more spread out. We have tended to centralize most of our shopping. I am fortunate i that the nearest food supermarket is only 3 miles away. The most of the other goods and services are in the mall 15 miles away.
Marty
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 07:39 AM UTC

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I may have to invest money in a motorcycle.



Could be quite hairy when the temp drops (been there, done that at 18 degrees!! ) and the snow flies (Ain't no snow tires for a cycle!)



LOL! I was thinking more in terms of doing it from late spring to early fall...you know the not so cold months.
kkeefe
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 08:56 AM UTC
...Nor do we here in the states have the rail system that the Europeans enjoy (?).

Gas/petrol has traditionally been far more expensive in Europe et al per liter/gallon comparison and there is/was less of a reliance on the family automobile to get around.

...but it was a long time ago.
sgirty
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 09:17 AM UTC
Hi, Here in SW Ohio it's running anywhere from $2.59 to $2.69 a gal. The higher prices are in the richer neighborhoods. Which is as it should be, in my opinion.

I have helped the problem for me somewhat by ordering a new Chevy HHR with the 4-cylinder motor and standard shift, which will be quite a jump in gas mileage from this big gas-sucking V-8, auto transmission truck I now have. Gas mileage for me should triple, at least.

And I'm fixing to get in touch with some of the folks I used to know who worked in the engineering section up to the shop who used to test run GM engines years ago and see what else I can do to this new car that will help gas mileage and not invalidate any warranty. I think a new K & N air cleaner system will be the first thing added.

Don't you believe it that these cars can't get any better mileage than they now do. The technology has been in place for many, many years that will make today's cars get a whole lot better mileage than they currently do. A WHOLE lot better. As I said, the technology is there, we just have to search for it a little.

Take care, Sgirty
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 11:01 AM UTC
We also experienced an increase in gas prices here in the Philippines just this morning. We are paying almost the same amount (probably a little lesser) -- its between $2.6 -$2.7 a gallon. At the moment, I'm not that much concerned because I really do not pay for my gas because our company currently still subsidizes it (luck me). I'm allowed to consume 174 liters per month.

I think the problem is that when someone invents something that would replace gasoline as fuel for cars someone or some big company out there would buy the invention with the intent of keeping it out of the market...because it would totally affect their business..... .

One example is here in the Philippines one man claims that his car is running on water alone (probably his design harness the hydrogen from H20). I've seen the car and it does run. The latest I heard is that a big company paid him huge sums of money to buy his rights to the invention and at the same time to stop any improvements....

Cheers
1stsgt
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 02:12 PM UTC
If the prices keep going this time next year, you will be paying $5.00 per U.S. Gal of gas. So when does the Government step in.
Henk
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 03:17 PM UTC

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...Nor do we here in the states have the rail system that the Europeans enjoy (?).



The Europeans may 'enjoy' their rail system, but you have obviuosly not used the train in England lately... :-) . The train system and service is diabolical..
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005 - 02:11 AM UTC

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The Europeans may 'enjoy' their rail system, but you have obviuosly not used the train in England lately... :-) . The train system and service is diabolical..



Ok, I'll admit it... I did drive around England and Wales the last time, the time prior to that, I was driven around but, never did I even think of having a car while on the continent. (Well, I did hitch a ride in an auto from the RLD :-)8 area in Amsterdam up to Copenhagen. )
Ross
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005 - 03:34 AM UTC

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While our European brethern are "semi-mocking" us for complaining about high gas prices, there are factors that they forget. I live here in Texas. The state is as big as half of Europe. The city I live in is known to us as the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex. from east to west the city measures 80 miles and from north to south around 60 with growth soon to take in a couple more cities . Traveling to work is usually 25 miles one way. At one time I commuted 42 miles one way. We put an average of 400-500 miles (650-800 km) a week on our cars.



Whilst I agree that the US is a very big place, I don't think that most people there would always travel twice the distance than us here in Europe, which would negate the fuel disparity. Bearing in mind that Cars are much cheaper to buy in the US as is food and consumer goods and almost everything else, the US standard of living is higher than here. However we have nothing to complain about in comparison to most of the World where people don't run cars but the increase in Oil price will have a negative effect on their standard and quality of life.

PS I live outside an urban area in the UK and we put 400-500 miles on our cars a week at double the cost of the US! I pay about 10% of my income on fuel just to drive to work, of that the government gets 70-80% in tax, that is an additional 7-8% income tax on my earnings, where does it go? Not on the roads for sure.

That's my rant for the minute.

Ross
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005 - 12:05 PM UTC
If memory serves me..... wasn't the Alaskan pipeline going to make us 100% free of importing oil?
Will we ever see 2.00 a gallon gas again?
LOL... I remember paying 29.9 per gallon...... and the days of diesel being at least half the cost of gasoline.

$56.00 bucks this morning to fill up. I feel sorry ffor those on a fixed income. I can simply make a few hours OT to cover the increase, they can't.
Goverment help....please, don't make me laugh, they are part of the problem.
sgirty
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005 - 12:47 PM UTC
HI, Grumpyoldman.....I think that was the original propaganda line we were told at that time, but most all the oil from the Alaska pipeline goes East to higher paying markets. After all, the oil barons, like the other world corporations of the "New World Order" have no country of origin so they have no country that they must show any allegiance to. Only to themselves, and their major stockholders. So the oil go to the highest bidder, no matter what nationality it would be. No politics involved. Of course this type of corporate trading has been going on just about since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution.

I can remember gas at $.12 a gal, plus they throwed in free glasses, cookware, cook books, silverware and all sorts of other things to get your business. Ah the good old days.....

Wars used to be called 'the sport of kings,' now it's called 'the sport of big business.'

Take care, Sgirty
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005 - 01:28 PM UTC
Maybe it's just me but Gas seems way overtaxed. I'd rather play the Lotto or Powerball if the money was going to lower gas prices.
matt
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005 - 09:26 PM UTC
Here's a generalization on how gas is "Made"

http://science.howstuffworks.com/oil-refining1.htm
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Posted: Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 12:52 AM UTC
$2.85 for the cheap stuff around me. Cost about $40 bucks to fill up the car.

Sean