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ShermiesRule
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Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 10:48 AM UTC
I took a breather from modeling just to re-energize my resources. I've been cranking out too manyShermans. Well today I decided to start up again. After cutting and sanding some of my pieces I decided to paint. Darn it all my bottles dried up. Now I have to go spend beaucoup bucks replenishing my supply.
Max_Fischer
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Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 11:42 AM UTC
I think someonen needs a hug,
What makes me mad is when you paint and realized that you used Gloss paint!
ARG WHO ON EARTH MAKES DARK YELLOW GLOSS! ARG!
What makes me mad is when you paint and realized that you used Gloss paint!
ARG WHO ON EARTH MAKES DARK YELLOW GLOSS! ARG!
USArmy2534
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Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 12:24 PM UTC
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ARG WHO ON EARTH MAKES DARK YELLOW GLOSS! ARG!
Obviously someone if you painted it.
Shermie, I know the feeling. I threw out about $50 of dried up paint
Jeff
1stsgt
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Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 01:59 PM UTC
I think they do that on purpose, or else they would be out of business. I took off for three months as i was in the way of buying a house, so what i did was i opened all my paint and cover them with a plastic wrap and then resealed them. I also turn them over from time to time, but all was invain, still had to buy fresh paint. The manager at our local Hobby Lobby greets me at the door and ask if there is anything i need today. 
keenan
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Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 02:14 PM UTC
Alan,
I have so much paint in the basement by my bench the EPA is getting ready to pay me a visit. However, since I started actually using one of the airbrushes my wife bought me for Christmas I stock up on MM Acryl ever time I go the LHS. I must have 10 bottles each of olive drab, dunklegelb and the modern US sand color with the seals intact.
I can appreciate your pain when you reach for that one bottle and it has dried up but I realized about 5 years ago $2.50 for new paint is a drop in the bucket compared to how much I spent on the kit. Most of the time now, when I actually manage to make it to a LHS and buy a kit, I buy the paints I am going to need for that kit and store them. I treat the paint as a really cheap after market item that I am going to need to finish the kit.
Hope this helps, in some odd sort of way,
Shaun
I have so much paint in the basement by my bench the EPA is getting ready to pay me a visit. However, since I started actually using one of the airbrushes my wife bought me for Christmas I stock up on MM Acryl ever time I go the LHS. I must have 10 bottles each of olive drab, dunklegelb and the modern US sand color with the seals intact.
I can appreciate your pain when you reach for that one bottle and it has dried up but I realized about 5 years ago $2.50 for new paint is a drop in the bucket compared to how much I spent on the kit. Most of the time now, when I actually manage to make it to a LHS and buy a kit, I buy the paints I am going to need for that kit and store them. I treat the paint as a really cheap after market item that I am going to need to finish the kit.
Hope this helps, in some odd sort of way,
Shaun
rv1963
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Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 02:15 PM UTC
Yep everybody has had that problem from time to time, a few years ago i read an article that said the paint companies use those coated paper inserts in that caps for 2 reason one they are cheap and two they will fail sooner or later and that means you buy more paint, don't know if its true but they do seem to fail often.
ShermiesRule
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Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 02:24 PM UTC
If you notice the timestamp of my first post you'll see it's 5:48PM Saturday. The hobby store closes at 6PM and I'm 40 minutes from the LHS. It's notso much the cost but that I now lost a day when I was all ready for an all-nighter!!!!
Red4
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Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 02:46 PM UTC
Yep, been there, done that, got the T-shirt, hat and foam finger to match it all. On the other side of the coin, I ran across a bottle of Pactra Flesh at a yard sale that still had a .15 price tag on it and was still as fresh as the day the bottle was filled. I asked how much for the paint. The guy looked at me like I had a ding dong growing out of my head and told me to just take it. It is one of the fond meories that I have as a kid. I painted all of my figures with this "Great" color, so I keep it close by for old times sake. Also have lots of the small Testors paints that are still kickin' after some 30-35 years. Whats even more funny is they get used on occassion! "Q" 
mother
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Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 03:18 PM UTC
Don't know how many times I went for a paint bottle only to find it had dryed up. Boy if I had a dime everytime that happened...
Now here's what I do, I throw a bebe into every paint bottle I have or get. Then I turn my bottles upside down, and every Sunday afternoon I shake all the bottles. The bebe helps in the mixing and being upside down the paint seals around the cap, keeping it air-tight. Oh one more thing, when you shake it, give the cap a twist open.
If your going to paint that day and know what colors your using, turn the bottles right-side up. That way your paint will fall into the bottle.
Having over 40-50 bottles a time and having doing this practice, my bottles never dry up. Knock on wood :-)
Now here's what I do, I throw a bebe into every paint bottle I have or get. Then I turn my bottles upside down, and every Sunday afternoon I shake all the bottles. The bebe helps in the mixing and being upside down the paint seals around the cap, keeping it air-tight. Oh one more thing, when you shake it, give the cap a twist open.
If your going to paint that day and know what colors your using, turn the bottles right-side up. That way your paint will fall into the bottle.
Having over 40-50 bottles a time and having doing this practice, my bottles never dry up. Knock on wood :-)
blaster76
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Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 09:00 PM UTC
I usually end up buying new jars of flat black and OD all too frequently. Some seem to last for years, others less than 6 months. I think the more recet stuff is the stuff I have the most cases of drying up. Now that's a "conspiracy". :-)
straightedge
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 01:20 AM UTC
I think when you put the plastic around it, that was enough to let air in, even though paint couldn't come out, if it dried out, cause I got a bunch of Floquil, plus some small Testors paints here that are older then most of the modelers here, and they aren't dried up.
All that was done was just put the lid on tight, now I grant you some was hard opening after a 20 or better years of setting, but there was no dry up, I was a little surprised myself, the harsh circumstances to which I stored them in, then find them OK.
Cause I left them in my attic, and it gets pretty hot, plus pretty cold up there depending on the season, and when I found them again, I thought oh no, but a little shaking, and stirring, and I started to use them again, of course a little thinner.
Now I got to even use thinner on the new bottles of Testors, but I can't find any place to buy Floquil locally now. But I know these paints got to be about 30 years old, cause that is how long it's been sense anybody sold Floquil around here, back in the 70's
Kerry
All that was done was just put the lid on tight, now I grant you some was hard opening after a 20 or better years of setting, but there was no dry up, I was a little surprised myself, the harsh circumstances to which I stored them in, then find them OK.
Cause I left them in my attic, and it gets pretty hot, plus pretty cold up there depending on the season, and when I found them again, I thought oh no, but a little shaking, and stirring, and I started to use them again, of course a little thinner.
Now I got to even use thinner on the new bottles of Testors, but I can't find any place to buy Floquil locally now. But I know these paints got to be about 30 years old, cause that is how long it's been sense anybody sold Floquil around here, back in the 70's
Kerry
Easy_Co
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 07:31 AM UTC
I found a tin of Humbrol Authentic Military colour in the bottom of my paint box British bronze green I baught it in 1985 its still in perfect condition.They dont make em like that anymore
Merlin
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 10:25 AM UTC
LOL! I'm with John here... I've got paints that are 30 years old and in perfect condition! Of course, S*d's Law takes a hand here; they are the paints I'll only ever need once in 30 years! 
On the other hand, it seems like whenever I go to use black or white, I need a new pot!
All the best
Rowan
On the other hand, it seems like whenever I go to use black or white, I need a new pot!
All the best
Rowan
capnjock
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 01:37 PM UTC
I usually buy new bottles when I start a new project just to make sure I have the paint on hand. The white and black, I always have at least one bottle back-up because I use so much of those.
capnjock
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Crackshot53
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 02:21 PM UTC
I've gone eight years without losing a can. I don't know, maybe I'm just lucky. Really Lucky. It seems like I run out of OD and Black every model I do! I recently bought about ten of Tamiya's OD green and still have it. 
But I can't seem to hold onto Black. If I buy two cans, I'll lose one and spill half of the other. I must have black paint loving packrats!
Roger
But I can't seem to hold onto Black. If I buy two cans, I'll lose one and spill half of the other. I must have black paint loving packrats!Roger
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 07:28 PM UTC
Is this a model master problem? I have only 2 bottles of them and havent used them for at least 6 months. When I went to get the rust bottle about a week ago, it had jellyfied .. the whole bottle, inside. I checked the other, rubber colour and it was the same.
Ive never had this problem with humbrols or tamiya. Some of my humbrols are 9 years old when I built an aircraft one time.
Ive never had this problem with humbrols or tamiya. Some of my humbrols are 9 years old when I built an aircraft one time.
ShermiesRule
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Posted: Monday, April 25, 2005 - 01:13 AM UTC
Plasticbattle- As a matter of fact they were Model Masters. I have some Testors where the thinner portion has turned into gelatinous form but some fresh thinner seems to help make the paint somewhat usable.
SS-74
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Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 08:06 AM UTC
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Alan,
I have so much paint in the basement by my bench the EPA is getting ready to pay me a visit. However, since I started actually using one of the airbrushes my wife bought me for Christmas I stock up on MM Acryl ever time I go the LHS. I must have 10 bottles each of olive drab, dunklegelb and the modern US sand color with the seals intact.
I can appreciate your pain when you reach for that one bottle and it has dried up but I realized about 5 years ago $2.50 for new paint is a drop in the bucket compared to how much I spent on the kit. Most of the time now, when I actually manage to make it to a LHS and buy a kit, I buy the paints I am going to need for that kit and store them. I treat the paint as a really cheap after market item that I am going to need to finish the kit.
Hope this helps, in some odd sort of way,
Shaun
I do the same. especially since I model a lot of different stuffs, so just to make sure I won't run out of paint when painting, everytime I get a new genre kit, I would buy all the new paints, and store them inside the box as well. It's like a cheap AM part. Of course I have no need to stock up on all the German Armor colors, since I am still a German Armor Modeler.
#:-) 
Hohenstaufen
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Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 09:08 AM UTC
I've only ever used Humbrol & I tend to just accept this as part of modelling. With the Humbrol tinlets as soon as you open the tin, the seal is gone for good, pretty much. Despite that they can last well. I've noticed that when I paint at work on night shift (what!!?), they get stiffer & dry up sooner. This is due to the air-conditioning I think, it's a very dry atmosphere, don't know if this could be a factor in Alans problem. I get round it by mixing nearly all my own colours, so only really need the primary colours & black & white, though I have got 2-3 pots each of the German 3 colour scheme hues. They don't dry up because spraying gets through them in quick time!
bodymovin
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Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 10:58 AM UTC
You guys should invest in some Vallejo ACrylics because they come in a squeeze bottle and even if you leave the top off they wont rally dry out. I used to be an enamel guy and i always had a wrench next to me to open the dried on bottle caps, but now i use Vallejo and im loveing it! NO SMELL, NO WRENCH, EASY CLEAN UP! I LOVE EM!
Henk
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Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 02:36 PM UTC
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Now here's what I do, I throw a bebe into every paint bottle I have or get. Then I turn my bottles upside down, and every Sunday afternoon I shake all the bottles. The bebe helps in the mixing and being upside down the paint seals around the cap, keeping it air-tight. Oh one more thing, when you shake it, give the cap a twist open.
Oh one more thing, when you shake it, give the cap a twist open.
Not a the same time though.....
:-) Good tip from Mother, I have been doing the same with my Airbrush mixed/thinned paints. It helps when you're spraying, to give it a shake inbetween, to keep the paint flowing nicely. Still, this problem doesn't seem to affect acryllic paint as badly as enamels.
Cheers
Henk
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