"December 7,1941 - a date which will live in infamy"

"Lest we forget"

pardon my ignorance but what happened bec 7th 1941?

Thanks ( i like history )
Frank

Frank,

The Japanese made a surprise attack on Pearl Harbor on this date in 1941...thus awakening a sleeping giant and catapulting the United States into WWII ...a decision they would learn to regret throughout the remainder of the war...

Hmm, politics in a modelling forum.. My 2 pennies worth..

http://www.cyber-north.com/canada/history.html
My source for the info below

Actually Canada entered WWII in 1939. And although I agree with you that there are some of Canadians that are disrespectful to President Bush, that is their right. I for one thought that we should have supported the United States whole heartedly. Before we point fingers of disrespect, one must take a look at the current issue before the Canadian Immigration Office or the Refugee Board.. Not sure which. There is a U.S. armed forces deserter applying for refugee status here, in Canada, as we speak. Seems he thinks the war is unjust.

But this is not why this thread was started.. Although some may not know what this day in history means, its not reason to cast aspersions at a person or country. I took a minute today to remember the fallen heros of Pearl Harbour, as I do on June 6 and of course Nov 11. Something that was taught to me on a daily basis by a 31 year Royal Navy and Canadian Navy veteren..
Rest well Dad.. As I said, my two pennies worth.

Mojo

I didn't post this to get a Political argument going, but to remember the dead, and injuried from the attack on Pearl Harbour.
The truth is Canada was in WWII in 1939, supporting England, and from 1939 to 1941 many Americans went north voluntarily to enlist in the Canadian Armed Forces to also support, and fight on England's side. Even after Pearl Harbour, naturally, Americans enlised in our armed forces, or were drafted, but many who were found to be unfit to be drafted, or enlist for what ever reason, still managed to volunteer for service in the Canadian Forces.

Evidently, this is a section of Canadian, and American history the young people haven't covered in school yet, or perhaps it was covered, but just glanced over.

The Young people simply asked a question as to the reason of the posting, in a historical nature of the posting, not for political statements about current events.

And I hope that ends the Political discussion.

Good on ya Dave, even as an Aussie i remember this day.

Truely sadening.

Don't worry about it ZzZGuy, at least you have the courage to speak up and ask a question about something you are unclear about. I was more surprised at the number of Americans that didn't know what happened on Dec 7, '41.

I have nothing against Canadians and respect them very much as friends and allies. I love the country-- spend 10 great days fishing and relaxing there in the spring and I'm always eager to return.

Sean

I didn't know that many Americans don't know what happened on that day. I think that all citizens should at least be familiar with the history of their nation.

Gee i thought Britain was the U.S. closest ally and friend (i say Britain because being Scots and not English you'd think that we had nothing to do with the war.)But yes we should all pay our respects.The sad part is there seems to be too few people who pay attention to history nowdays. (:-) (:-) (:-)

I am totally dumb-founded. A simple posting about one of the most significant dates in the history of the WORLD turned into political crap. I state the world as it got the United States involved ....TOTALLY !!! Without this, it is highly likely that facism and Japanese Imperialism would have suceeded. This was not a US vs Canada or a who is the US's most importanat ally thread so if you want to argue that. go to the personal message format.

Seve the first part of my post was meant to be tongue in cheek.If iv'e offended someone i'm sorry that was'nt my intent. (:-) (:-) (:-) (:-) (:-) (:-)

Well, I think the intent of the thread as started was a great idea. 7 December 1941 is a day we should never forget. I know that I never will. We all need to remember the mistakes of the past and the tragedies that came from them. Unfortunately the lessons from the past seem to fade as the years go by. It isn't because of a lack of concern from the students but a failure of the educators. The students can only learn what they are taught. If the Day of Infamy isn't being taught in the schools, we can't expect the students to know about it or glean anything from it.

I agree 19K

it is indeed a date I will not forget anymore than 9/11 will be, but just as Dec 7, 1941 seem from this thread to be fading it will too. I agree that the education has failed history and if you forget history you are bound to repeat it. I doubt we have another June 6th 1944 but you can't be sure. Dates that changed the course of mankind should be engraved on the minds of all so not to repeat those events again. One would think those that model armor and the like would know the dates of MAJOR events, but perhaps I over estimate the interest of history of other that model history. Less I digress ....
I lost an Great Uncle at Pearl so perhaps it has more meaning to me having had a relative there, albeit years before I was around.I remember the photo and the flag with the Purple Heart and the letter from the President that my Grandmother had hanging on the wall, it was all she had left of her brother.So it still remains a shame that such an event is becoming a footnote; a sidebar to history. In the words of Albert Einstien, "I don't know what WWIII (WW3) will be faught with, but I do know WWIV (WW4) will be faught with sticks and stones." Why? Be cause we don't learn from the past, we forget and we move on. War is to be a lesson and to learn from so it is not repeated, not glorified, it's and awful thing and you don't want to be in one. I'm proud of my service, but I miss my friends that died. Fact are a truely successful military will put themselves out of business as there is peace in the world and they are no longer needed. But that day will never come, because mankind will learn from it's mistakes and continue to make them. I remember Dec 7th 1941 and so should you.

Semper Fi
Dave

Unfortunatly one of the reasons i think it's starting to fade is that most of the veterans from WW2 are starting to pass on,there are far fewer antique veterans marching in the parades than there used to be.As well as 9/11 and its repercussions being foremost in peoples minds now. (:-) (:-) (:-) (:-) (:-) (:-)