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Posted: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 09:39 PM UTC


[Caption: US solder used a dummy to draw enemy sniper into view]

Came across this photo while reading news on MSNBC.com We have all seen this type of a maneuver done in the movies. It is kind of cool to see it actually being used in real life by real soldiers. BTW, that dummy head looks quite convincing.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 10:35 PM UTC
Maybe hes just slacking off while on guard duty?? :-) :-)
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Posted: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 10:54 PM UTC
Great Post, Marty!
I also always thought this was just the realm of Hollywood. Next thing you know he'll be using chewing gum, a shaving mirror, & bayonet to spot around corners...
one question- Why isn't his Spotter holding up the dummy while he (or SOMEBODY) mans that beautiful piece in the background? Seems to me when flushing a sniper you'd want to bring all guns to bear
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Posted: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 11:21 PM UTC

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one question- Why isn't his Spotter holding up the dummy while he (or SOMEBODY) mans that beautiful piece in the background?



Good point. Perhaps there is someone in the background (off picture to the right) doing just that. At least I am hoping that is the case. Otherwise what the guy on the floor is doing is kind of pointless. Even if the dummy gets hit, he still won't know where the shot came from. Unless he is using a bayonet, chewing gum and a mirror to look over the wall. :-)
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Posted: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 11:46 PM UTC





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Great Post, Marty!

I also always thought this was just the realm of Hollywood. Next thing you know he'll be using chewing gum, a shaving mirror, & bayonet to spot around corners...
one question- Why isn't his Spotter holding up the dummy while he (or SOMEBODY) mans that beautiful piece in the background? Seems to me when flushing a sniper you'd want to bring all guns to bear



I was thinking the same thing Robert, In this situation, the shooter should be in a seperate location. Other wise he would be a target before the dummy head was! Preferably the US shooter would be in a different building ready to shoot. At the same time staying in radio contact with the man presenting the decoy. Team work would be the key.

Just my 2 clams!

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Posted: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 12:18 AM UTC
I just hope the sniper isn't using an RPG!
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Posted: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 12:31 AM UTC

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In this situation, the shooter should be in a seperate location.


Couldn't agree with you more, Garry. Just seeing that rifle lying untended gives me the feeling that this is an improvised setup. Ideally, you'd have at least one, more when possible, shooter firing from a prepared position, giving maximum coverage of all fields of fire. This guy looks like he came up with this Idea when pinned down with little support (or it's just a dog-and-pony for the camera... )


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I just hope the sniper isn't using an RPG!


Yeah Bob that could make things get sucky right quick- but think about this: even "just" a high velocity 7.62 round hitting that helmet would put that poor bastich on the floor at seriuos risk of a snapped radius & ulna...

[EDIT]- Just spotted the two guys in the backgroun, in full sun from what seems to be an open doorway. More evidence for the dog-and-pony theory... unless these guys are just stupid.[EDIT]
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Posted: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 01:48 AM UTC
I don't see the two guys in the background but I am still calling shenanigans. Why would you use your own Kevlar lid and goggles to draw fire? If I was going to entice someone to shoot at or towards me I would want a lid and goggles on. Surely if they were putting in the effort to have radio contact with a fire team in a separate location they would have grabbed and extra helmet to make the dummy. I also noted no web gear, side arm etc. But they do have canned Coke. Seems pretty casual to me.

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Posted: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 02:50 AM UTC
Interesting observations. It looks like US military is just having some fun with the media.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 03:40 AM UTC

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I don't see the two guys in the background but I am still calling shenanigans.


Uhhh, o-kay!
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Posted: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 11:24 PM UTC
Perhaps simply a posed photo for the press behind the lines, showing them how it's done.