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Posted: Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 05:05 AM UTC
Now I know Latte`X will be joing us in a while since I know he shares my fascination with the art of Photography. I've seen very remarkable pictures from a lot of the people in the group, so why not discuss techniques, updates on new hardware(?), or kahit anong photography adventures niyo, rito.

I'll start by posting this 1G offering of Twinmos for SD-Media users, ang ganda nito, para kang merong isang truck nang film sa luob nang digi-cam mo.

Oh MY, overkill.

This'll probably come pretty steep, I'm thinking along the lines of around 20k since the 256MB variant of this goes for around 5k++ over here.
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Posted: Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 10:08 PM UTC
Great thread jomz! Sana naman meron dito magshare kung pano kumuha ng great pics.

As for me, whenever I get shots of my work I ensure I have these set of shots:

front, rear, top, bottom, right, left.

It ensures the viewer to view the entire model at all angles
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Posted: Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 05:05 AM UTC

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Great thread jomz! Sana naman meron dito magshare kung pano kumuha ng great pics.

As for me, whenever I get shots of my work I ensure I have these set of shots:

front, rear, top, bottom, right, left.

It ensures the viewer to view the entire model at all angles



One suggestion I'd have for you is to refrain from putting your "subject" directly under the light as this technique DOES OFTEN mislead to a nice picture (great shine, etc.) but sometimes the colour, texture and whatnot qualities of the model could be obscured (quality wise) by the direct-light source. What you could do is find, maybe an indirect source of light perhaps.
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Posted: Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 01:16 PM UTC
I tried putting some filter on the direct light. I've used onion skin paper but the thing is, the same results happen. Do you know of other materials to use? I always arrive late at night so sunlight is no longer available.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 12:26 AM UTC
Shonen,

Try using an indirect lighting source then. You can improvise that by using a white umbrella. If you have a strong lamp and a small white umbrella, shine the lamp up unto the umbrella. The canopy will scatter the light enough for you to take better shots. Also, use white cartolina as your backdrop, the more to scatter and reflect the light back into the model.

I have yet to use this technique in models but used this way back in some objects. Di ko lang magawa lately kasi wala akong strong lamp.

Hope this helps :-)
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Posted: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 01:25 AM UTC
[quote]Try using an indirect lighting source then[/quote}
Wala na kasing malakas na indirect source of light dito sa bahay eh. I've tried every lamp in our house pero lahat madilim, only my study lamp has given bright light so far. I'll try that umbrella technique.

Using white as a backdrop changed the color of the entire pic (see my Apache, yung background nya is white illustration board). Or maybe because of direct light?
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Posted: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 02:25 AM UTC
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Try using an indirect lighting source then[/quote}
Wala na kasing malakas na indirect source of light dito sa bahay eh. I've tried every lamp in our house pero lahat madilim, only my study lamp has given bright light so far. I'll try that umbrella technique.

Using white as a backdrop changed the color of the entire pic (see my Apache, yung background nya is white illustration board). Or maybe because of direct light?



Of course it was because of direct light, well it could also have been influenced by the flash of the camera, but I'm sure it was the direct light.

One thing about natural light is it diffuses pretty well (depende ren sa weather ha, baka tanghaling tapat ka mag litrato..)
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Posted: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 11:46 PM UTC
Tama si jomz, it's the direct light that ruined the color of your Apache.

As for outdoor shots, the best time to photograph with direct sunlight would be between 8 - 9:30 AM and 3:30 - 5 PM, depending on time of year and weather. This is the time where sunlight is yellowish white instead of strong white.
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 11:45 AM UTC
I'm just trying to discover my camera.I have a Canon S50 "Powershot."
I guess the next investment is a tripod. I have to agree with LaTtEX's opinion. Another nice background will be mid-blue cartolina
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 01:28 PM UTC
Ahh! The S50!! Maganda rin pala sya sa micro shots. Nice pic! I was planning to get that one myself but I have a better cam in mind. Hehehe :-) :-) :-) :-)
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 02:33 PM UTC
Let me see.. maybe a Canon G5 Shonnen.. or the Canon E0S 300D-the Digital rebel hmmm anu kaya ?
Oops.. or if you want to wait for latest tech... try this
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 03:05 PM UTC
Rebel! Rebel! Rebel! :-)

Masayang-masaya kami sa A80 namin. Still playing around with the settings and there are a lot of settings!

I have a Nikon 35mm SLR standing by at home. Backup for the digicam.

BTW, Philips recently showed a prototype liquid lens. No autofocus lag. Virtually uses no power. Uses small electrical charges to reshape a liquid. Read it at http://www.dpreview.com.
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 03:22 PM UTC
Hey Jeepney I think we have the same article..hehehe
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 03:55 PM UTC
Oops sorry didn't bother to check hehe
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 05:09 PM UTC
I have a Cannon Power Shot A20 which is only 2 megapixel. I wanted to upgrade it but when I saw the cost of the Rebel (almost $1000) I decided to stick with the A20 for the meantime.
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 06:11 PM UTC
Hahahaha! Damn that Rebel!!! Nagtingin ako ng lenses para dyan tapos yung pinakamaliit na lens nya is 95k!!!! Mas mahal pa kaysa sa cam itself! Darn! Makakabili na ako nang maraming kits nyan! Hahahaaha. Actually ok naman yung 1.3 MP na video camera ng dad ko (Sony). Maganda rin ang kuha nya sa very small parts such as the control panel of my 1/72 BF-109E. What more kung more than 1.3 MP??? :-) Cool.....
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Posted: Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 08:24 PM UTC

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Hahahaha! Damn that Rebel!!! Nagtingin ako ng lenses para dyan tapos yung pinakamaliit na lens nya is 95k!!!! Mas mahal pa kaysa sa cam itself! Darn! Makakabili na ako nang maraming kits nyan! Hahahaaha. Actually ok naman yung 1.3 MP na video camera ng dad ko (Sony). Maganda rin ang kuha nya sa very small parts such as the control panel of my 1/72 BF-109E. What more kung more than 1.3 MP??? :-) Cool.....



Hehe! Wow! dpreview visitors, hehe! Like me-self.

I second bltiz' G5 suggestion, as most professional-studio photographers use this. The 300D, well..that's a sexy camera, by all means if you have the monetary resources, get it! Get it!

But as Latte`X and me say: "..it's not in the camera..." hehe, same goes with modelling, "..it's not in the tools.." hee hee!
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 02:23 AM UTC

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But as Latte`X and me say: "..it's not in the camera..." hehe, same goes with modelling, "..it's not in the tools.." hee hee!



Amen!

Kahit anong ganda ng camera kung ala kwenta kumuha yung photographer ala kwenta yung picture!

I'm very fortunate that my mom bought herself a Canon Rebel 2000 - EOS 300 SLR. By far it has never EVER failed to give a good picture especially when I use Kodak MAX ASA 400 film.

My digital camera is the 2 megapixel Fujifilm A400. Since it has a flower (large aperture opening) feature it suits my needs for model photography just as long as it's used in daylight. It has also produced beautiful results in outdoor photography.
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 02:59 AM UTC
I found one alternative for the Rebel here Pro1. The latest from Canon. With a super Macro mode that you can position your subject for up to 1/2" from the tip of the lens & it's 8 megapixels. Only thing is it costs almost the same as the Rebel ($999). #:-)
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 03:48 AM UTC

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I found one alternative for the Rebel here Pro1. The latest from Canon. With a super Macro mode that you can position your subject for up to 1/2" from the tip of the lens & it's 8 megapixels. Only thing is it costs almost the same as the Rebel ($999). #:-)



Seems to me you're paying for the pixel size with regards to this camera. I'm still sticking with the 300D hehe! with oh, over 50 EF lenses to choose from...
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 04:49 AM UTC

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Seems to me you're paying for the pixel size with regards to this camera. I'm still sticking with the 300D hehe! with oh, over 50 EF lenses to choose from...



I'm no photography/camera expert but I think the higher the pixel size the more expensive the camera gets. With regards to the 300D, I think it's a good camera to start with but comparing it to the Pro1, it's only 6.5 megapixel & it costs $900+. If I have to choose between the two I think I'll go for the Pro1. But of course it depends upon your own personal preference.
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 05:25 AM UTC

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I'm no photography/camera expert but I think the higher the pixel size the more expensive the camera gets. With regards to the 300D, I think it's a good camera to start with but comparing it to the Pro1, it's only 6.5 megapixel & it costs $900+. If I have to choose between the two I think I'll go for the Pro1. But of course it depends upon your own personal preference.



Hmmm..

I would still go for the 300D, with oh it's tried and tested CHIP and Body design, plus the choices between 50 of Canon's EF line of lenses, and a couple of third-party lenses too. Anything above 3.0 Megapixels won't be discernable to the eye na daw that much, plus I'm not planning on having around 8MB PER Image! hehe! I could only imagine that 80 images would just, oh consume one whole CD at most...hmmm..

The 300D is the choice, for me. (:-)

I have the same reasons for not choosing Sony's F828, too. Even with the attractive price (a bit more than the 300D) and also promising 8.0 MP, still, the options you have are so limited. The 300D, as far as I can remember, was used in shooting calendar's for Total's WRC solicitation.
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2004 - 11:38 PM UTC
As for me, I may still go for 300D (dream lang to). With the changeable lenses, you can go from 10x zoom to 100x at di naman masyadong importante ang pixels greater than 3 MP especially kung for fun lang naman ang gamit.
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Posted: Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 04:36 AM UTC

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As for me, I may still go for 300D (dream lang to). With the changeable lenses, you can go from 10x zoom to 100x at di naman masyadong importante ang pixels greater than 3 MP especially kung for fun lang naman ang gamit.



Hmmm, if you're getting the 300D, you won't be using it for fun.
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Posted: Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 04:46 AM UTC

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Hmmm, if you're getting the 300D, you won't be using it for fun.



Well actually, you oughta have fun when using the EOS 300. But it's a very very very reliable camera when it comes down to serious photography. Read: photojournalism.
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