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salt chipping
mikeli125
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Posted: Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 05:36 AM UTC
I've seen the article on salt chipping in FSM but it says use kosher salt not having a Jewish community to hand what else could I use instead
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Posted: Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 05:48 AM UTC
Try very coarse Sea Salt. Failing that, look in a health food store and see if they do something similar. I don't want to be facetious, but has anyone thought of using sugar? It's going to dissolve and be brushed off anyway so.....Jim
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Posted: Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 06:26 AM UTC
I wouldn't suggest sugar. It would get sticky, not all of it is removed, etc. Who wants ants crawling all over their models. Check your local grocery store. Look for the Kosher, sea or pretzel salt. Regular table salt also works.

Here's one I did using regular table salt:

http://www.pcmodeler.com/index.php?module=My_eGallery&do=showgall&gid=85&p=
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Posted: Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 06:43 AM UTC
Hmmm, I thought ants crawling all over tank models in "Them" was cool...

Sorry - couldn't resist - going back to my corner now...

Gunnie
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Posted: Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 08:04 AM UTC
You building a Merkava Mike? :-) I used to work in the sugar Industry many years ago and for the Passover the cheif Rabbi would wave his mitre or whatever over a silo of sugar say some preyers and it was then kosher I dont think ordinary salt is any different its just blessed :-)
mikeli125
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Posted: Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 08:26 AM UTC
LOL easy no Merk this time just thinking about doing my Pz1 in DAK scheme when I build it thise tristar figs look the bus for it!
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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2004 - 06:11 PM UTC
You could try bath salts. They come in many colours including white.
If they are big crystals, they can always be broken up with a hammer and a plastic bag.

Plus an added bonus would be your dio's would smell nice.....

Cheers
Peter :-)
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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2004 - 06:16 PM UTC
In addition, I've just remembered a report on the advantages of sense of smell with regard to advertising...hence scratch and sniff patches in magazines.
I was just thinking for example if lets say you were making a pine forest dio setting in winter, the appropriate bath salts used as snow or salt would give a mysterious realism.

You think I'm joking don't you......
Peter
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Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 02:46 AM UTC
Get regular salt and I'll "bless" it for you.

Sealhead (Kansas Sunflower)
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Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 08:12 AM UTC
Morton's Kosher salt is sold in every grocery store, not necesarily in a Jewish store. MIght also be called gourmet salt. At the spice aisle, look at the lower shelves.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 08:41 AM UTC
Margarita salt, they sell it just about everywhere except in dry counties. Another thing to look for is canning salt it is big grained

I don't know if anybody ever reads what I put down or not, but sugar, would be like putting down glue, if you can't find any big salt, have you ever seen the salt they throw on side walks, just get yourself a hammer, wrap it in a towel, and break it up a little, then you will have smaller pieces.

Kerry
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Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 11:57 AM UTC
Kosher salt is not the same as other Kosher things....its not blessed by a Rabi.

Kosher salt is just that....Kosher salt....it has a larger grain to it than normal table salt, actually larger grain than sea salt I believe.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 12:01 PM UTC
I use sea salt which I find in all the grocery stores around my home.
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Posted: Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 07:49 AM UTC
Mike if your still looking for salt Saxa do a coarse sea salt the lumps should be just the right size you can get it in Tesco's. :-)
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Posted: Friday, March 19, 2004 - 06:59 AM UTC
Interesting replies. To be really Kosher, there is a symbol on the label. I'm not sure, but it may be a "k" with a circle around it. You'll notice it on many food products as some Jews and some non-jews prefer to eat kosher foods as it actually fulfils the religious and/or dietary requirements of several different religions and health issues for others.
Kosher is primarily based on cleanliness, rather than ritual. Being the Rabbi authorized to grant the "kosher" tag can be a well-paid, coveted job. One Rabbi killed another one over the position. Who wants to do a diorama of that?
Kosher salt can be a name referring to grain size or salt from the Dead Sea, or it can be that and actually Kosher if it has the symbol. How do you like those "crystals" of trivia.

Sealhead (Kansas Sunflower)- 'ain't no good deli's in Kansas, Toto!
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Posted: Monday, March 22, 2004 - 11:19 PM UTC
Is there any way that i could have a copy of the original FSM article ? If someone has it please pm me to give u my mail adress. Thanks for helping out
Costas
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 04:04 AM UTC
Epsom Salt is available in most drug stores. It's about the same size as Kosher Salt. People use it to soak their feet in it.
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Posted: Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 03:52 PM UTC
Guys, I need your help.

I'll soon be painting a Panzer IV Ausf H with dark yellow as the base color and camouflaged with brown and green.

Panzer IV Hs are made in 1943 which means that this tank's base color was dark yellow.

I want to use the salt technique on this model so it will have a grungy appearance.

Here are my problems:

First, I don't know what is the underlying color of the tank underneath the dunkelgarb color. Is it dark gray or is it a differnt color?

Second, my plan is to (in order) 1) prime the model 2) overcoat with flat black 3)paint with the underlying color (whatever this underlying color is) 4) apply the salt 5)paint with the dark yellow 6)paint with green camo 7)paint with brown camo scrape off the salt.

This process will take a few days to complete. Won't the salt encrust on the model hard enough that it can't be scraped off? Should I scrape off the salt BEFORE I do the green and brown camo?

Please help. Thank you.

Angela
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Posted: Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 04:49 PM UTC
Let me rub a little salt in t...naa.

I plan on using the salt method on my, in progress, Ferdinand Tiger. Should I use sea salt from the Mediterranea sea or from the dead sea? :-)

Angela, I haven't tryed this method before, but I think I would remove the salt after painting the camo. If you give your model a wash, then remove some of the salt before wash, and remove some of the salt after the wash. Some chips might be new some might be old and full of dirt. This is just a theory, I haven't yet tryed this myself.
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Posted: Friday, October 01, 2004 - 01:40 AM UTC
Angela ,Im not sure but I think German Tanks were painted with red oxide then their yellow coat.hope this helps
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Posted: Friday, October 01, 2004 - 02:34 AM UTC
Hi Davy, I use mortons pickling salt. Seems to work ok. Cheers Kevin
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