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Weathering: Before & After
Azarius
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Posted: Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 02:45 AM UTC
I know I'm probably reaching, but does anyone have a pictures of their model "BEFORE" and "AFTER" the weathering process?

I'm a visual guy, and pictures are worth a 1000 words on how it should look.

Thanks!
scoccia
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Posted: Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 06:28 AM UTC
Azarius, I agree with you that an image often speaks better than lots of words...


Before


After

If you're interested in you can see more of it here

I hope this can help
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Posted: Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 07:00 AM UTC
I found an interesting step by step article on weathering. http://www.cueballweb.com/~worktop/tips_tricks/wash_and_weather.html
Hope the link works
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Posted: Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 07:32 AM UTC
Hi there Azarius

In my aircraft builds, I usually do a lot of pre-shading... so there isn't really a "before & after"... weathering is there from the start of painting.

I just did an Albatros for the Age of Aces Campaign, which I post-shaded with pastels... so maybe this will count... :-)

Before:


After:


All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 01:57 PM UTC
scoccia
how did u get the details to pop out on your model did u ise airbriush
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 02:35 PM UTC
nick, airbrushes aren't the cure for everything.. i've noticed in MANY of your other posts you ask if blah blah blah is used with an airbrush. i'm going to tell you that the airbrush is mainly used fro a base coat, camo and a future coat. most and i mean most other weathering detailing is used with a brush. the wash is what scoccia used to make the details pop out like that. that's what a wash does it raises the lower spots with the color uses use... and you apply it with a brush.. same with dryBRUSHING you use a brush and get it dry on a paper towel then paint lightly over the surface of your model and it picks up the raised details of the model. then you add your pastels for rust and water marks and yes you add those with a handbrush i wouldn't want to see someone's airbrush that tried to apply pastels with it*cringes* hope that helps some... don't want to bash on you or anything
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 06:16 PM UTC
Nick I agree to what John said. What you see in my first pic is what was done by airbrush (the bere basecoat). All the rest was done by brush and it was:
- filter (98% thinner to 2%paint) to tone down the too yellowish basecoat
- selective wash (80% thinner to 20% paint) to give depth to the inset details and to the nuts/bolts/rivets
- three drybrush sessions with a ligther colour every time and everytime "lighter" (paintbrush wise)
Ciao
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 01:17 AM UTC
scoccia, what is the name and nationality of your tank? im assuming its maybe italian,it isnt named in your gallery either
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 02:09 AM UTC
On missing links articles page there is a good article how James Blackwell weathers/post shades hiw vehicles. Look at the difference between the before and after shots. Although a bit extreme, its worth a read, and you might pick up some hints and tips.
Click here for article
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 05:20 AM UTC
Howdy plasticbattle,

Supremely good article! This is almost the method that I use when weathering, with the exception that I also do washes as well for my deep crevices, and 'pin' style washes for specific locations.
I am in COMPLETE agreement with (was it James Blackwell?) him in regards to the 'European' style of xtreme highlighting, and almost 3-D appearance of some AFV's.
A perfect example of subtle weathering and 'realistic' result's is our 'Gunnie's' work. IMHO, he does an absolutely outstanding job on not only properly weathering his kits, but keeping the final appearance of his models 'dead-on'..........I mean, and I've said this before, his models look as if you've got hold of a 'Honey, I shrunk the kids' ray gun and actually shrunk the real thing down to 1/35th scale size!!

O.K., O.K., enuf blowing Gunnie's head all out of proportion.
Just wanted to thank you for the link, and possibly point out to 'Azarius' the benefit's of both this method, and the joy of subtlety.....

Tread out.
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 05:24 AM UTC
...Oops! Almost forgot, very nice Tiger there UofAwildcat! I'm willing to bet you use a similar method to Mr. Blackwell's article as well?
Good stuff.

Tread.
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 08:16 AM UTC

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scoccia, what is the name and nationality of your tank? im assuming its maybe italian,it isnt named in your gallery either


It's a "Carro Armato Leggero L6/40" from Criel-Model. If you'd like to build one I suggest you get the new L6/40 from Model Victoria that has got a separate full interiors set. This little juwel is simply stunning and goes together almost like a Tamiya's plastic one...
Ciao
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 08:47 AM UTC
hey scoccia do u pre-shade all of the tank or just some parts,
cause thats a good idea and do u pre-shade wit ha darker color,
and little nick,....
here are pictures of my tanks.
i used a spray can i built these last year,
but i cant afford an air brush right now.
the air brush i had broke,
but cans are fine air brushing is a pain some times lol

but here is my pics http://groups.msn.com/armorama/chrisairpics.msnw
LittleNick
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 09:13 AM UTC
scoccia what color did u use in your first and second wash
scoccia
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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2003 - 05:53 AM UTC

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do u pre-shade all of the tank or just some parts,
cause thats a good idea and do u pre-shade wit ha darker color,
....


I pre-shaded only the darkest spots.
You can find more details about the whole process here in the thread I started for the North Africa/Under the sun GB


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... what color did u use in your first and second wash


Actualli I only do selective washes. The first one was with sienna (oil) and to tone it down I gave a second one on the same spots with naples yellow (oil).
To tone down the rest of the model I first applied a tiny sopt of naples yellow (oil) at the center of the panels then I spreaded it towards the edges of the panels with a paintbrush dipped into Essence F (is a thinner that I buy in France and I have no clue of what it is in english). Once everything was dry I applied a final white filter (oil thinned at roughly 98% with Essence F) on the whole model...
Ciao
LittleNick
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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2003 - 12:18 PM UTC
Fabio I am still confused i still dont get how you brought out the
detail in the model that well. If youe could walk me through it
that would be great. I just started so some stuff is confusing to me
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