Hello Guys,
May I break into this thread? I'm new around here (been a member for a few days only) and all my posts have been in the IPMS thread.
I can identify with your concerns about increasing our kind because I have gone through that experience with our club. The one activity that has always helped are exhibitions or contests. Everytime we finish an exhibit we come away with a new member or two. During the exhibit we get to talk to those who are interested & later extend an invitation to join the club. Lately we have been seeing new faces every meeting so the newer members are obviously telling their friends about the club & invite them to the next meeting. Of course visiting hobby shops & talking to those browsing around also works.
But one thing we have accepted is the fact that modeling is no longer a popular hobby. In this age of "instant gratification" patience is a rare commodity among the younger generation. So when we see young modelers out there, WE GRAB 'EM! (Sorry FedEx).
It's nice to see a forum like this & its nice to belong in it, so Thanks again for the welcome.
Cheers
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lonewolf
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Posted: Friday, November 21, 2003 - 12:27 AM UTC
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Hello Guys,
May I break into this thread? I'm new around here (been a member for a few days only) and all my posts have been in the IPMS thread.
I can identify with your concerns about increasing our kind because I have gone through that experience with our club. The one activity that has always helped are exhibitions or contests. Everytime we finish an exhibit we come away with a new member or two. During the exhibit we get to talk to those who are interested & later extend an invitation to join the club. Lately we have been seeing new faces every meeting so the newer members are obviously telling their friends about the club & invite them to the next meeting. Of course visiting hobby shops & talking to those browsing around also works.
But one thing we have accepted is the fact that modeling is no longer a popular hobby. In this age of "instant gratification" patience is a rare commodity among the younger generation. So when we see young modelers out there, WE GRAB 'EM! (Sorry FedEx).
It's nice to see a forum like this & its nice to belong in it, so Thanks again for the welcome.
Cheers
Welcome "fiawrc"!
Another elder has been sent to guide us!
I agree, the virtue "patience" really is something rare in today's generation...
I guess the model community will grow....That's why we cultivate patience in our hobby...
Again, welcome aboard, Great Model Elder!
buck
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Posted: Friday, November 21, 2003 - 02:09 AM UTC
I agree with what has been posted several times now. The younger generation mostly are into instant gratification. Playstations, interactive thingys, etc. Theres just too little patience going around these days.
Another reason might be the cost, as has also been said. Buying a decent kit may be a tall order enough for some kids, imagine how they would react if you told them how much the equipment and materials (and perhaps even reference material) would cost. Grabe!
I guess that at this age, you have to really want to be a modeler to stick to the hobby. Ive seen a lot of newbie modelers getting out of the hobby after the 3rd kit. Like it was a passing fad or something.
Exposure will help though. Im sure there are a lot of people out there who really want to try out the hobby but dont know where to begin or were simply afraid to ask.
Another reason might be the cost, as has also been said. Buying a decent kit may be a tall order enough for some kids, imagine how they would react if you told them how much the equipment and materials (and perhaps even reference material) would cost. Grabe!
I guess that at this age, you have to really want to be a modeler to stick to the hobby. Ive seen a lot of newbie modelers getting out of the hobby after the 3rd kit. Like it was a passing fad or something.
Exposure will help though. Im sure there are a lot of people out there who really want to try out the hobby but dont know where to begin or were simply afraid to ask.
jomz
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Posted: Friday, November 21, 2003 - 09:59 AM UTC
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I agree with what has been posted several times now. The younger generation mostly are into instant gratification. Playstations, interactive thingys, etc. Theres just too little patience going around these days.
Yeah! Young pa talaga ako! hehe!
I second the motion with regards to the cost of maintaining and starting in the hobby. I've so many friends who are interested in the hobby, but are kept "a-bay" by the hefty prices some kits demand!
Jeepney
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Posted: Friday, November 21, 2003 - 06:24 PM UTC
Actually kung compare mo modeling at video games halos pareho lang gastos. A good game console goes for around 15k. Factor in a few extra memory cards, gamepads and joystick for another 10k. Kung ayaw mong may kaagaw ng TV bili ng bago around 10K uli. "Legal" game CDs go for 1000 each and boring na ang game after a few days. With that kind of cash I can build meself a nice little corner with lights, airbrush/compressor, and digicam.
Nasa exposure lang talaga siguro. It IS more cool to splatter your friends' avatars' brains all over the wall with a minigun. Tama si buck: you have to really want to be a modeler to stick to the hobby. Encouraging those who want to give modeling a try will work wonders.
Basta kung may anak na ako magiging modeler din sya
Nasa exposure lang talaga siguro. It IS more cool to splatter your friends' avatars' brains all over the wall with a minigun. Tama si buck: you have to really want to be a modeler to stick to the hobby. Encouraging those who want to give modeling a try will work wonders.
Basta kung may anak na ako magiging modeler din sya
shonen_red
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Posted: Friday, November 21, 2003 - 11:17 PM UTC
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Basta kung may anak na ako magiging modeler din sya
Ayos yan! Baka nga lang biglang agawin nya parts ng kits mo
#:-) 
buck
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 02:26 AM UTC
Jeep,
I am more than decided to introduce (or force, if necessary, hehehe) the hobby sa first-born ko. Problem is, shes a girl! Ngek! Di bale, I WILL FIND A WAY! Or at least, pag me nanligaw na, that prospective suitor has to know how to model. Its my way or the highway.
I am more than decided to introduce (or force, if necessary, hehehe) the hobby sa first-born ko. Problem is, shes a girl! Ngek! Di bale, I WILL FIND A WAY! Or at least, pag me nanligaw na, that prospective suitor has to know how to model. Its my way or the highway.
lonewolf
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 03:09 AM UTC
A daughter? I see...
Cguro pra ma involve cya sa modeling, exposure tlga sa hobby habang bata pa...
Then expose mo cya sa outdoors, sa mga camping activities, survival, hiking, at kung ano ano pang outdoor...
Then let her join those CAT-1/ROTC activities in school...
Then a few units of Filipino History...And a lot of war films...
Just a suggestion..^_^ But in the end, it really depends upon the person...
Good Luck on rearing an heiress, Great Elder!
Cguro pra ma involve cya sa modeling, exposure tlga sa hobby habang bata pa...
Then expose mo cya sa outdoors, sa mga camping activities, survival, hiking, at kung ano ano pang outdoor...
Then let her join those CAT-1/ROTC activities in school...
Then a few units of Filipino History...And a lot of war films...
Just a suggestion..^_^ But in the end, it really depends upon the person...
Good Luck on rearing an heiress, Great Elder!
blitz
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 03:44 AM UTC
Everytime I visit hobby shops here, I'm seeing a lot of elders( and I mean "elders" ) rarely have I seen modelers younger than 20's below. Mostly are in comic shops and "games workshop" or just plain hanging out.. it's really a different situation here.
It's mostly the fathers who introduce the hobby to the kids.
Kaya siguro we should do a survey or post a new thread........
It's mostly the fathers who introduce the hobby to the kids.
Kaya siguro we should do a survey or post a new thread........
cardinal
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 02:05 PM UTC
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Everytime I visit hobby shops here, I'm seeing a lot of elders( and I mean "elders" ) rarely have I seen modelers younger than 20's below. Mostly are in comic shops and "games workshop" or just plain hanging out.. it's really a different situation here.
It's mostly the fathers who introduce the hobby to the kids.
Kaya siguro we should do a survey or post a new thread........
You're definitely right Blitz. Here most of the modelers are in their 30's up. Sabagay, a child can't appreciate this hobby yet & to think it could be a hazard to children especially this things has lots of small parts that they could choke on.
GIBeregovoy
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Posted: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 12:18 AM UTC
Children nowadays need a lesson or two from Fr. Bernas: "Delayed gratification" as he told us first years in Ateneo Law. :-)
Fiawrc: We not just grab 'em. We stick 'em on a chair, put a mind control device on their heads, feed them info on Shepard Paine's works, all that miltiary history, all that styrene... hehehehe #:-) This means war to the video game console! #:-) #:-)
I agree with Jeep - the hobby ain't that expensive compared to video games. The console itself costs much (ok, initial cost), then there are the original games (fine, pirated ones are cheapo - but then he's just helping bring up the price of original games). Besides, is there any neurological/intellectual value in playing Doom 3? Or CounterStrike (ugh...)? However, STEEL BEASTS ROCKS! #:-) (besides, that ain't a game. It's a TANK SIM! hehehehehe)
But with a model... ah yes... a model... especially when she's got nice lovely long legs, long hair, chinita eyes... oops wrong model...
Ahem. But with a model, one acquires physical dexterity (all that handling of small parts), accuracy (research research research), history (do you know that the M1A2 was first blah blah blah), and other stuff (oooh, I didn't know Olive Drab was just soooooo cool on a Porsche Boxster!). :-)
Fiawrc: We not just grab 'em. We stick 'em on a chair, put a mind control device on their heads, feed them info on Shepard Paine's works, all that miltiary history, all that styrene... hehehehe #:-) This means war to the video game console! #:-) #:-)
I agree with Jeep - the hobby ain't that expensive compared to video games. The console itself costs much (ok, initial cost), then there are the original games (fine, pirated ones are cheapo - but then he's just helping bring up the price of original games). Besides, is there any neurological/intellectual value in playing Doom 3? Or CounterStrike (ugh...)? However, STEEL BEASTS ROCKS! #:-) (besides, that ain't a game. It's a TANK SIM! hehehehehe)
But with a model... ah yes... a model... especially when she's got nice lovely long legs, long hair, chinita eyes... oops wrong model...
Ahem. But with a model, one acquires physical dexterity (all that handling of small parts), accuracy (research research research), history (do you know that the M1A2 was first blah blah blah), and other stuff (oooh, I didn't know Olive Drab was just soooooo cool on a Porsche Boxster!). :-)
GIBeregovoy
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Posted: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 12:40 PM UTC
Hmmm... I've been thinking (yes, that be dangerous hehehehe) what if we could set up a model exhibit/contest of sorts but the venue this time be in universities, say coordinate with the university's fine arts department. This might perhaps open up the hobby to other kids as well. Or hit them where they're still young and their minds relatively easy to "manipulate" (hehehehe - see, when I think, it's a dangerous undertaking hahahahaha): exhibits in high schools, say during their family or anniversary day, have some Elders even do some kits on the spot, something like that.
blitz
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Posted: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 02:05 PM UTC
I remember back in the 70's that Ateneo grade school had a Modelmaking Club ... are there any Ateneans who can shed light on this?
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