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Posted: Monday, April 27, 2009 - 06:54 AM UTC
For infantry, quite so. perhaps.
But not in this case. SSN=Submersible Ship, Nuclear
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Posted: Monday, April 27, 2009 - 07:50 AM UTC

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For infantry, quite so. perhaps.
But not in this case. SSN=Submersible Ship, Nuclear



I understand what an SSN is. If you check, you will find that, I believe that it was while Zumwalt was CNO, sailors were allowed to have facial hair, as long as it was kept trimmed. My comment about combat tempo was more strictly related to the comment about different times. As my Dad, a WW2 vet always says, there is a big difference between the peacetime Army and the wartime Army, and of course a big difference between soldiers in garrison and soldiers in the field.
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Posted: Monday, April 27, 2009 - 10:44 AM UTC
Hi guys
Jason pointed out about religion playing a part about hair in the Canadian forces. Tradition now gets rolled in there as well,t the Natives and Metis can grow their hair out as well as long it is braided. Which would be great if I was just going in o the CF now.
I remember my DI giving me crap about shaving using the old line about at least taking the blade out and make it look like I was shaving. I had a serious baby face at the time so much so I actually didn't start shaving until after I left the service.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 01:11 AM UTC

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In cold winters, for instance, I cannot imagine soldiers wanting to shave or cut their hair, since extra hair would add warmth. Assuming the winter clothing is unavailable or inadequate.


Never been in the military, but I have had beards and longer hair. In extreme cold weather, it DOES NOT add warmth. Same with a full head of hair. There just isn't enough hair and it is not of the texture to trap a significant amount of insulating air to reduce discomfort in extreme weather. Humans never really needed to adapt biologically to changing environments beacaue by the time those environments were encountered, the species had learned to use animal skins as protection from the cold. Animals who survived extreme conditions either evolved shedding coats of fur or multiple layers of different types of hair to insulate themselves. Even bird feathers on the smallest over wintering birds provide a great deal of insulation.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 09:36 AM UTC

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In cold winters, for instance, I cannot imagine soldiers wanting to shave or cut their hair, since extra hair would add warmth. Assuming the winter clothing is unavailable or inadequate.


Never been in the military, but I have had beards and longer hair. In extreme cold weather, it DOES NOT add warmth. Same with a full head of hair. There just isn't enough hair and it is not of the texture to trap a significant amount of insulating air to reduce discomfort in extreme weather. Humans never really needed to adapt biologically to changing environments beacaue by the time those environments were encountered, the species had learned to use animal skins as protection from the cold. Animals who survived extreme conditions either evolved shedding coats of fur or multiple layers of different types of hair to insulate themselves. Even bird feathers on the smallest over wintering birds provide a great deal of insulation.



I've been in some pretty extreme climes in the US and Europe (even Iraq got into the 20's while on patrol in the desert) and never was concerned with hair as insulation. In fact, the bigger worry has always been overheating and dehydration, as many of the newer team members don't consider it as much as they would when it's hot.
That said, my first go around at Winter Warfare taught me the value of not shaving - it strips the skin of essential oils that protect your face from drying out and becomming chapped. Not a mission stopper, but it does add to overall comfort level - an important consideration when you're hauling an ahkio twelve hours a day on one LRRP meal, which were by the way, the best field rations the army ever offered.