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WWII bomber movies: recommendations please
DesertFrog
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Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 03:47 PM UTC
Hi all,

What are the best movies for capturing the World War II bomber crew experience?

Yeah, I can use Google to find movies that include bomber material, but I'd like your recommendations on which ones are actually worth watching.

If they include Lancs, even better! And there's no need for anyone to mention The Dam Busters.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 04:48 PM UTC
I always enjoyed "633 Suadron" and "12 O'clock High"
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Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 05:19 PM UTC
I have to agree about 12 O'clock high. I remember when I was a kid it was a TV show too. Anyone else remember that or know if it's available anywhere?
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Posted: Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 09:19 AM UTC
The best movie about Bomber Command by far - Appointment in London

It's got Dirk Bogarde!
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Posted: Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 10:30 AM UTC

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I have to agree about 12 O'clock high. I remember when I was a kid it was a TV show too. Anyone else remember that or know if it's available anywhere?



http://www.amazon.com/Twelve-OClock-High-Special-Gregory/dp/B000O78L0U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1204842281&sr=1-1

The movie is available but I haven't found the TV series yet -I used to watch it as a kid too.
Amazon.com lists another "12 O'clock High" linked with "The Rat Patrol" (Another TV favorite ) but it's some music video's that have nothing to do with the movie or TV series.
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Posted: Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 10:54 AM UTC
Oh Man I forgot about Rat Patrol! O.K.... How 'bout Land of the Giants and Time Tunnel??

Mike T
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2008 - 01:35 PM UTC
Thanks for the recommendations, guys! I rented 12 O'Clock High and watched it last night -- it was well worth a look. A bit more flying action wouldn't have hurt, but I could see that wasn't the point of the movie; and the ground-based stuff was fine.

I haven't found the other movies yet, but the search continues.

Any more recommendations?
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2008 - 02:32 PM UTC
I remember the TV show right after was Combat. They had a model kit you could build that came with a base that resembled a city and plastic stands for the bombers 3 in the kit as I recall and decals that were bombs dropping on the city.. Now my brain hurts and I am going to bed
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2008 - 02:41 PM UTC
speak of the devil http://cgi.ebay.com/1965-Aurora-12-OCLOCK-HIGH-B17-B-17-Bomber-Formation_W0QQitemZ310027651871QQihZ021QQcategoryZ142340QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2008 - 03:30 PM UTC
I don't know any from Bomber Command but for Eighth AF you can try Memphis Belle (by no means accurate but lots of flying) as well as the documentary Memphis Bells by William Wyler (maybe the best wartime heavy bomber documentary) and "The Wal Love" with Steve McQueen.

John
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2008 - 03:34 PM UTC

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I "The Wal Love" with Steve McQueen.

John



Sorry, thats 'The War Lover."

John
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2008 - 03:40 PM UTC



I remember getting this at a hobby store in Richmond VA back in 1967! For its day it was the coolest thing!

John
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2008 - 04:53 PM UTC

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... 'The War Lover."



Thanks, John -- my mother's got that one on DVD, so it looks like it's next on my list!
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Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 09:48 AM UTC
The colour film made at RAF Hemswell has some fabulous footage of Lancs being serviced, bombed up,fuelled and heading out onto a raid.
Theres superb footage of Lancs on the perimeter track passing the hangers and control tower. Today, most of these buildings and the perimeter track remain.
One of the best colour films of the USAAF was made by Clarke Gable, around the same time as Willian Wylers classic , but very much "Holywooded" Memphis Belle. Its called Combat America, and you'll find it on Google Videos.
12 O'Clock high is a real classic though. No CGI involved there,,thats a real B17 being belly landed at the start.
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Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 12:54 PM UTC
Cheers, Nige.

Pardon my ignorance, but how do I track down "the colour film made at RAF Hemswell"? Closest I found was this 3 minute slide show on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T23kPzSRNvA

RAF Hemswell's own website doesn't seem to mention any colour film.
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Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 10:30 PM UTC

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Cheers, Nige.

Pardon my ignorance, but how do I track down "the colour film made at RAF Hemswell"? Closest I found was this 3 minute slide show on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T23kPzSRNvA

RAF Hemswell's own website doesn't seem to mention any colour film.




I have the whole film on dvd somewhere, I'll try and find it for you. I actually ordered mine from Australia
This is a clip on Youtube.
HERE
Did you find Combat America ?
Nige
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Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 10:35 PM UTC
Found the DVD on Ebay.
HERE
Keep hold of the link to Hemswell today, you'll find it very usefull for "then and now" comparisons. Hemswell today is a large antiques centre, which has ensured the preservation of a lot of the buildings.
Nige
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 11:46 AM UTC
Nice one. I've downloaded the excellent clip and will look into getting the DVD.

I found Combat America; I'm on dialup at home so the download will have to wait a while. The DVD is available cheaply anyway.

Thanks for your help.
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Posted: Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 07:06 AM UTC
ONE OF MY FAVORITE WW2 MOVIES IS "AIR FORCE". IT IS ABOUT THE EARLY WAR PERIOD AND FEATURES A B-17C NAMED THE "MARY ANN". IT HAS THE USUAL DERRING DO AND COMIC RELIEF, BUT IS WORTH WATCHING.
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Posted: Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 01:45 PM UTC
I figure it's worth citing since it hasn't been mentioned, but what about Battle of Britian? I'm thinking about the 1969 Harry Saltzman version. No Lancs, and the bombers you see are German, but still not a bad picture. It's full colour, has a great cast, lots of vintage aircraft, and the flying footage is good.

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Posted: Friday, March 14, 2008 - 02:55 AM UTC
Hi Jason how about "one of our aircraft is missing"
DesertFrog
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Posted: Friday, March 14, 2008 - 11:57 AM UTC
Thanks guys, those movies all look good.

Combat America turned out to be a great suggestion; it's basically a documentary, so I doubt I'll find a more authentic film!
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Posted: Friday, March 14, 2008 - 09:16 PM UTC
Something else that may be of interest, but which I only have vague recollections of, is a British TV series, "The Pathfinders" from the '70's. If I recall correctly, this series was about Lancaster crews of the Pathfinder Force,

Does anyone remember anything about this series?

I have seen some references to it being available on DVD.
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Posted: Friday, March 21, 2008 - 10:06 AM UTC
I remember watching this on television years ago but I don't remember too much about it. I just thought I would mention it.

"Enola Gay - The Men, the Mission, the Atomic Bomb".

Here is a link.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080689/

HARV
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Posted: Friday, March 21, 2008 - 04:43 PM UTC
A mate and I were just talking about that mission the other day, Harv, so it's funny you should mention it.

Phil, The Pathfinders looks like a cracker. The IMDB page is here: www.imdb.com/title/tt0165053/
and the DVD is on Amazon UK: here
... although one of the reviews says the picture & sound quality is duff. 20 quid too.