I got Dragons US Navy Seals set to use the shotgun in it on another project and am wondering what the one part is.


It’s the thing sticking out the end of the handle under the magazine.
Any one know what it is and more importantly if there on the shotguns currently used by the military?

Gas regulator for a self loading shotgun???

The round gizmo in front of the trigger guard is a pour plug to be removed. The cylindrical thing under the barrel is a flashlight.

Al got it. Its a TacLight that is used bot as a hands free way to light up an area while also blinding any potential target. Most SWAT weapons now have them standard.

Jeff

Yep flashlight. It should actually have a switch built into the forearm on either side that is activated by squeezing. It would probably be a strip of black rubber embedded in the forearm.

Thanks for the quick response guys.

Anyone know if it would be found on the shotguns used in Iraq to breach doors?
I haven’t been able to come up with to much reference on the subject.

10th Group's Mossy 500's do not have tac lights. Shotguns are GENERALLY used for breaching, and no light is necessary.

This got me thinking... Is there such a thing as a "Self Loading shotgun"?

Thanks for the Info.
I’ll slice the light off the bottom of the gun and use it.

Murdo there are lots of semi auto shotguns out there.

Yep.. Loads of Semi Auto's............. BUT there's just something Intimidating about thet Sound of a pump action..........

Aditionally, a semi-auto is not a good combat weapon. And for safety, an empty husk is always left chambered until ready to breach.

I never really understood the 'light under the barrel' idea. I would think it makes a great aiming point for your opponent. I know it works with rabbits, but rabbits don't tend to carry AK47's.

My personal new favorite in semi-auto http://midamericarecreation.com/aa12_videos.htm
Comes with a box magazine, a 20 round drum, or a 32 round drum. It can also fire new rounds that contain small projectiles or grenades. So it can fire normal shot, slugs, armour peircing rounds, frag grenades, or HE grenades.

Still, I would rather take a pump action from Remington or Benelli for actual usefulness as a shotgun.

As a member of my departments ERT (emergency response team) I assure you that a semi auto shotgun is a wonderful weapon for CQB. Imagine 7 rounds of 12 guage 00 buckshot into the perp, fired so fast that all the spent shells are still in the air after ejection. A wall of lead that will literally cut a perp in half. The semi auto is NOT a good weapon for breeching. They are very tempermental in the gas presure from the shells. Most breeching rounds and bean bag rounds and other specialty shotgun ammo have different operating pressures and generally wont reliably cycle the action of the semi auto. If you are going to use a semi auto then you will be shooting only standard ammo.

The bad guy on the other side of a door, no matter how foolish or stupid they may be, will know that sound. Especially when racking a round into the chamber.

Dave

Always something comforting about the "ka-chunk" sound when you are the one making the noise.

Talking about automatic shotguns?
Don't forget Pancor Jackhammer and H&K CAWS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancor_Jackhammer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_HK_CAWS
Neither went into production, though.

To a certain extent yes, but you are talking about using it in seriously close quarters combat, where the advantage comes from the shock of the light just as much as anything else. A perp is going to hear you breach the house and if you don't want him to know you are there, then you leave the light off until the last second. It is all situation dependent. Not to make anyone sound stuipid, but only in rare examples do breach teams go in with little planning. They should have a generally good idea of where the shooter is.

Like 18Bravo said, having a taclight is really not going to see combat, plus most M-16/M-4s in squads have some kind of illum, either from infared or from taclights of their own. Hope that helps.

Jeff

In my prior life I used a tac light on a Remington 1100, Benelli semi auto, and on an MP-5 as well. If I remember correctly all of our team members had them. We even had them on most of our Glocks. I was the only one who did not use one on the Glock. The good old days