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Is Photoshop an art form?
antonio
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Posted: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 01:36 AM UTC
My question is:

Is it fair to just paint/airbrush a model, or does a bit of Adobe Photoshop help?






I await your comments

Marius

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Posted: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 01:38 AM UTC
OOPS!! Im trying to direct my photos to the link im 'my photos'

Hmmm-as u can see, Im new to this-any help??
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Posted: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 01:56 AM UTC
Marius,
You can add those as links using the URL BB code (see BB code under the Forum FAQ link below for more info) or you can click on the actual image to get the pre-formatted BB IMG code which displays the image as above. I also removed the "/medium" from the url so that the full sized images would show. A little trick.

Nice photoshop effect. I haven't seen to many people doing that. They ususally like the b&w versions though.

Cheers,
Jim
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Posted: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 02:14 AM UTC
As to you title then yes Photoshop is an artform.



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Is it fair to just paint/airbrush a model, or does a bit of Adobe Photoshop help?


It depends on your photography skills and set up. I don't have a lighting set up so I always fiddle with the brightness and contrast. I crop photos and clean up the background if I need to.

My photos are still hit and miss and I need to devote time-Which I don't have, energy- which I'm running out of, and cash -which my wife has earmarked for something else, to getting better results.
I think it's an area that a lot of modellers don't give enough thought to photographing their models before they show them and the photography forums on this and other sites don't get much traffic.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 03:28 AM UTC
Ola Marius

Well it kinda depends on what you want to do with it.
I have my own design studio and I work almost all day long with photoshop and yes you can do some pretty outreageous things with it. In your picture I recognise something of the posterize filter but I could be wrong a bit on that as there are some filters that are quite close to each other when it is about results. It looks nice though.

What I often do is merge pictures that I made of my diorama's with my own camera in background pics that I found on the web. Adding sometitles in Illustrator to finish the thing.

In my gallery I have quite some examples of this stuff and i love to do it.
Like this

Or nice pictures of other people their models which I made into a somewhat "Authentic look"



Or the stuff you are going to do when you have absolutely nothing to do


Enhancing pictures a bit (example is again not a model of mine but I used it as an example to show what it did if you pulled the picture a bit through photoshop


And still one of my favourtie pictures:

Which was actually made from this


You sure can do fun things with photoshop... makes you wonder why photographic evidence is still a legible evidence in courts

With friendly greetz

Robert Blokker
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Posted: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 05:18 AM UTC
Photoshop sure can be an art form - just look at the feature images you see on the site.

The affects are usually pretty cool. Sepia tones make nice tweaks.
Personally I like an original photo next to a photoshopped photo.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 04:15 PM UTC
Thnx for all the replies, guys
Hmmm-I do see im not the only one enjoying the benefits of photoshop!!

Some real great pics there Robert!

I takes about longer to photoshop a model than actually airbrushing it-lol!

We should actually start a photo galler-it would be great fun!!

Marius
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Posted: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 04:49 PM UTC
recently there's a trend I have been noticing especially in HF -good models destroyed by a terrible Photoshop work (like using that bloody 'clouds' filter)
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Posted: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 05:34 PM UTC

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makes you wonder why photographic evidence is still a legible evidence in courts



Being a crime scene photographer in Montreal and now using digital photography
I can tell you that in court it has been accepted to present photographic evidence take with a digital camera.

Remember that when a digital camera records an image, it sets up the meta file
which records all aspects of info pertaining to that actual image; date, time f-stop
etc.......so when a file is open and manipulated, it is all recorded.

As far as an art form is concerned, well having worked with PHOTOSHOP in
other aspects of photography, My opinion is that the program is nothing
more than an image enhancing tool.

The real art form is the photography. Let us not put aside what photographers
were all taught years ago, Composition, lighting and manual image manipulation.

The PHOTOSHOP tool can correct a bad photograph, help enhance it with all
kinds of effects of which most were done in the darkroom anyways years ago.
The difference is for example it would take me 2 hours work to posterize an
image 10 years ago now it takes me 30 seconds.

So as most people living in this fast world, PHOTOSHOP is a great image
enhancing/manipulation tools but I would not call it and art form.




My opinion,
Cheers,
Joe
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Posted: Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 10:00 AM UTC
Photoshop is no more an artform than a box of paints from the art shop is a masterpiece.

It is simply a tool that some people can use to create art, just as the paints from the art shop can be used to create art.

Both can also be used to create an awful mess.

It's all in how it is used.
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Posted: Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 12:30 PM UTC
Photoshop is an art form if someone is using it to create art just as Digging is an art form if the person doing it is an artist making land art. It all has to do with intent
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Posted: Monday, April 02, 2007 - 05:45 PM UTC
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makes you wonder why photographic evidence is still a legible evidence in courts



Being a crime scene photographer in Montreal and now using digital photography...

Hi Joe

I myself had been in the 'Service' for 14 years as a crime scene expert here in South Africa, more to the forensic side of things.

I enjoyed it very much.

Regs

Marius
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