Hello everybody, just finished reading the Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer. I was interested in the fighting that took place in Prussia, especially the battle of Memel.
Does anybody recomend any books dealing with this theate of the war and is there any other books like Guy Sajers about the eastern front.
Cheers
Jamie
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The Forgotten Soldier - Guy Sajer
james_mcdougall_85
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2007 - 02:01 AM UTC
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Jamie--- I don't know anything about the Eastern Front. Names are too confusing, but you might want to consult books by David Glantz. He is a great writer and more knowledgeable about the Eastern FRont than any other person I read. It seems I recall doing an "ask.com" check on Sajer and came up with several interesting sites. You can read one that tells you he is full of doggie doo and never went to Russia as claimed. Another will tell you the story is a composite and there was one that said his tale was true. He seems to have gone through a remarkable amount of combat which was not unusual for German soldiers. So, you might want ot surf the internet for additional details. I know of no other books written by him.
DJ
DJ
AndyD
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2007 - 05:58 PM UTC
You may want to Google that book's title too.
There is quite a bit of controversy surrounding the authenticity of that book.
But it was a bloody great read either way
There is quite a bit of controversy surrounding the authenticity of that book.
But it was a bloody great read either way
Drader
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2007 - 06:14 PM UTC
The debate is pretty well summarised here:
Sajer
The book reads like it was compiled from memory without recourse to a diary or conversation with old comrades. As to whether it's authentic or not, I have no idea but it isn't flagrantly wrong.
David
Sajer
The book reads like it was compiled from memory without recourse to a diary or conversation with old comrades. As to whether it's authentic or not, I have no idea but it isn't flagrantly wrong.
David
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2007 - 06:20 PM UTC
I also love books like that,,,in norwegian (too bad for you:)) there is a lot of books written by norwegian volunteers experiencing heavy battles,,I also find a lot of books in english,, (amazon.com) the one title on an english book coming to mind is "blood red snow" the memoirs of an eastern front machine gunner...
AndyD
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2007 - 06:32 PM UTC
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Sajer
As to whether it's authentic or not, I have no idea but it isn't flagrantly wrong.
David
The question of it being an accurate reflection of the eastern front (or fragrantly rong) was never questioned - simply that Guy published it as an autobiography and has come under much scrutiny from historians and other veterans alike.
One of the most scrutunised parts is where he states that he sews his G.D title to left sleeve - other G.D vet's swear that is something you would never get wrong!!
Regardless of the controversy it is an excellent read and I can suggest another two books similar in nature:
james_mcdougall_85
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2007 - 07:31 PM UTC
Those books look pretty interesting, I'll look into them when I'm finished reading my current book.
I've just started reading James Megellas "All the way to Berlin". Its pretty good so I will read this first before moving back to the eastern front.
Regards
Jamie
I've just started reading James Megellas "All the way to Berlin". Its pretty good so I will read this first before moving back to the eastern front.
Regards
Jamie
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2007 - 07:41 PM UTC
I enjoyed Campaign in Russia by Leon DeGrelle, he was the Belgian who served in the Walloon detachment of the waffen SS.interesting account
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2007 - 07:43 PM UTC
Quoted Text
The debate is pretty well summarised here:
Sajer
The book reads like it was compiled from memory without recourse to a diary or conversation with old comrades. As to whether it's authentic or not, I have no idea but it isn't flagrantly wrong.
David
David-- that is the site I recall reading sometime ago. The author concludes that Sajer was real. Once again, regardless (fact or fiction) it is a captivating book. Glantz does a marvelous job in his books on the Russian front. I could never get into it like the other aspects of WW II that I read about. Different strokes for different folks.
Enjoy
DJ
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2007 - 08:35 PM UTC
Has anybody read "With our backs to Berlin" by Tony Le Tissier . I thought it was really good. I am also thinking of buying one of the big books like 'Stalingrad' or "Berlin: the downfall 1945".
I guess there are so many books to read and not enough time .
Jamie
:-)
I guess there are so many books to read and not enough time .
Jamie
:-)
210cav
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2007 - 08:54 PM UTC
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Has anybody read "With our backs to Berlin" by Tony Le Tissier . I thought it was really good. I am also thinking of buying one of the big books like 'Stalingrad' or "Berlin: the downfall 1945".
I guess there are so many books to read and not enough time .
Jamie
:-)
Jamie-- are they Bevin's books? If so, I thought they were fantastic. Could not put them down.
DJ
james_mcdougall_85
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2007 - 09:14 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextHas anybody read "With our backs to Berlin" by Tony Le Tissier . I thought it was really good. I am also thinking of buying one of the big books like 'Stalingrad' or "Berlin: the downfall 1945".
I guess there are so many books to read and not enough time .
Jamie
:-)
Jamie-- are they Bevin's books? If so, I thought they were fantastic. Could not put them down.
DJ
Is that Bevin Alexander your meaning? I don't think it is, this one was written by Tony Le Tissier, a Lt-Col who served with the British Army's Royal Corps of Military Police.
Is there any Bevin Books that you recommend?
Jamie
Drader
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2007 - 09:45 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextQuoted TextHas anybody read "With our backs to Berlin" by Tony Le Tissier . I thought it was really good. I am also thinking of buying one of the big books like 'Stalingrad' or "Berlin: the downfall 1945".
I guess there are so many books to read and not enough time .
Jamie
:-)
Jamie-- are they Bevin's books? If so, I thought they were fantastic. Could not put them down.
DJ
Is that Bevin Alexander your meaning? I don't think it is, this one was written by Tony Le Tissier, a Lt-Col who served with the British Army's Royal Corps of Military Police.
Is there any Bevin Books that you recommend?
Jamie
Anthony Beevor
David
210cav
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2007 - 10:15 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextQuoted TextQuoted TextHas anybody read "With our backs to Berlin" by Tony Le Tissier . I thought it was really good. I am also thinking of buying one of the big books like 'Stalingrad' or "Berlin: the downfall 1945".
I guess there are so many books to read and not enough time .
Jamie
:-)
Jamie-- are they Bevin's books? If so, I thought they were fantastic. Could not put them down.
DJ
Is that Bevin Alexander your meaning? I don't think it is, this one was written by Tony Le Tissier, a Lt-Col who served with the British Army's Royal Corps of Military Police.
Is there any Bevin Books that you recommend?
Jamie
Anthony Beevor
David
How did I screw that one up? I should have said BEEVOR. My bad.
DJ
james_mcdougall_85
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2007 - 11:40 PM UTC
Ah I understand the mistake, Antony Beever is the author of Berlin: The Downfall 1945.
Jamie
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