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Need help with D-day hedgerow cutters
moJimbo
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Posted: Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 08:55 PM UTC
hello... has anyone tried scratchbuilding the Cullins hedgerow cuttters fitted to the sherman tanks on d-day?.... any pics, scale plans or drawings will do... i was thinking of doing them with styrene sheets for my DML 'operation cobra' sherman.

thanks
trahe
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Posted: Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 09:03 PM UTC
Get some styrene I-beams, too. That way you can cut the I-beams and build the Cullins cutters very much like the real ones were made.
AlanL
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Posted: Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 10:03 PM UTC
Hi Mojimbo,

I have a set, can't remember which kit they came with, but your welcome to them. PM me you address and I'll send them over if you like.

Cheers

Al
moJimbo
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Posted: Monday, January 22, 2007 - 08:44 AM UTC
Thanks for the replies guys..

Thomas: thanks for the idea for using the plastruct I-beam.... though they are hard to find over here, I'll try to look around. Does anyone know the hedgerow cutters' measurements in 1/35?

Alan: PM sent... thanks!
18Bravo
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Posted: Monday, January 22, 2007 - 08:57 AM UTC
I'm doing one for my M8 HMC. I think Tamiya put one into one of the light tank kits, but I'm guessing it would be way out of scale. I'g going with angle iron rather than I beam, as in the pics at this site:

http://www.robertsarmory.com/hedge.htm

I know it's not for the Sherman, but it gives a very good idea of the construction.
HONEYCUT
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Posted: Monday, January 22, 2007 - 12:49 PM UTC
Gday MoJimbo
Which armored division are you going to represent?
There were differences between them...Most were made from Rommel's 'asparagus' beach defences which were just junk piled on the beaches...



This would be from the 3rd AD methinks, as they used this version which was called the "Rhino", differing from the conventional (!?) by way of the triangular plates either side...
IIRC the 3rd AD only equipped about a quarter of their tanks whereas the 2nd AD equipped approx. three quarters...
Hope this helps!
Cheers
Brad
moJimbo
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Posted: Monday, January 22, 2007 - 07:24 PM UTC
18bravo.. thanks for the link! Those close-up pics might just be useful...

Thanks for the info and pic Brad! Mmmm.. I don't mind doing either a 2AD or a 3AD vehicle, as both shermans in them had the OD/black camo, which is what I intend to do to the kit.

I know there are 5 or 6 variants of the hedgerow cutters, but do they go specifically to a particular unit? Or perhaps it doesn't matter?
barv
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Posted: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 12:24 AM UTC

Can you scale from the pics???
You know Sprocket size *A*---therefore "Prongs "are slightly longer *A1*
You know width between horns *Z*--so divide by 4 to give positions of Prongs... *** I-I+I-I ***


Some pics










hope this helps
aye
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exer
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Posted: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 03:16 AM UTC
Some more photos showing the variety of cutters









moJimbo
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Posted: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 05:17 PM UTC
hey, thanks for the pics barv & exer....

...mmm.. i guess i could do some fair guesswork on the dimensions then...
HONEYCUT
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Posted: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 12:50 PM UTC
Hey MoJimbo, that second last pic from Pat is a great overhead shot of the 'Rhino', and I think you should build it!
USArmy2534
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Posted: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 08:13 PM UTC
This was the hedgrerow device I scratchbuilt. I just looked at reference ohotos and pretty muched just winged it.





Jeff
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Posted: Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 04:38 AM UTC
Here's mine, actually based on that one b&w photo posted by Pat ("M4 Sherman with 76mm gun") Just guesstimated the measurements from the photo. Actually, this is the second version, the first one was too big and looked comical!





Cheers,
Jim
moJimbo
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Posted: Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 09:07 PM UTC

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... that second last pic from Pat is a great overhead shot of the 'Rhino', and I think you should build it!



ooo niiiice.... yes the pic shows the device more clearly... is that the same type from your earlier pic brad?

thanks for the pics USArmy2534 and junglejim... i think they look quite good...

btw, i just came across the concord book 'US tank battles in France', and has the pics of the various types of h-row cutters in 3 pages.... plus more pics/info on the shermans and m10s in france... a great book!


HONEYCUT
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Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 04:01 PM UTC

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ooo niiiice.... yes the pic shows the device more clearly... is that the same type from your earlier pic brad?



Pretty much, but there looks to be two prongs in Pats pic between the 2 triangle blades, to my one... Both are 3AD though!

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btw, i just came across the concord book 'US tank battles in France', and has the pics of the various types of h-row cutters in 3 pages.... plus more pics/info on the shermans and m10s in france... a great book!



Yep, good pic ref. Have it open on the dinner table now
Cheers
Brad
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