Well, I'm off to Germany next April for 2 days to the Nurburgring racing track (give my car a run out).
It's in the Effiel Mountains in Germany and I was wondering if anyone knows of any interesting places to visit in the area?? Especially leaning towards my interest in AFV's.

I'm hoping to rebuild my colection of photos after the death of my HDD and the loss of my entire collection

Um here?
Germany -

1st Armored Division Museum - Baumholder
1st Infantry Division Museum - Würzburg
Historisch-Technisches Informationszentrum Peenemünde - Peenemünde
KDF-Bad PRORA - Prora
Luftwaffenmuseum der Bundeswehr - Berlin
Marine-Ehrenmal - Laboe
Maritim Museum U461 - Peenemünde
Militärhistorisches Museum der Bundeswehr - Dresden
Panzer Museum - Munster
Stasimuseum - Berlin
Technisches Museum U 995 - Laboe
Technikmuseum U-Boot Wilhelm Bauer - Bremerhaven
Wehrtechnische Studiensammlung - Koblenz
Westwall Museum - Pirmasens


and here's descriptions - scroll to Germany and clicky away!
http://www.warmuseums.nl/landindx.htm
(p.s. don't mention that whole Hitler-Nazi thing they are a little sensitive about that )

lol - I do get that impression

Thanks!

Some more

Its in german, hope thats not a problem. Depends how far you're willing to drive...not too much there in the near of the Eiffel area. You could visit the remains of the Westwall, some fortifications are preserved in the area.

Indeed, we are sensitve in this matter(Quite understandble, isn't it), but mainly it depends HOW you mention it.

Hi.

At first, I would recommend a journey to the "Panzermuseum Munster". You can check that here

The whole Hitler-Nazi thing: it is very interesting when you, as a german citizen, come for example to england or america and you say that you are a german nearly everybody clap its boots, raise the right arm and say heil hitler




I think this is a good opinion

I'm sorry to hear that Nico.

Having served in a lot of places all over the world, Germany is probably one of the nicest countries I've ever been in and I've been there three times with the Military and all over the country.

Clean, neat, tidy, well kept and generally, beautiful scenery.

The Germans I've met are (normally) a bit reserved (no problem with that, so are most Brits) - however they are also very friendly, helpful and incredibly polite. They usually have a great interest in why you are in their country and take great pride in showing you the best of Germany and Germans.

To be quite honest, if I meet any Germans in Scotland (now I'm back) I'll be delighted to give them the hospitalty I generally received in their country.

Hi murdo

Nice to hear. It is right, that in germany it is not easy to deal with the "Third Reich Theme". Since 60 years the people where educated to excuse everytime for this and if you say, you are proud to be a german, then you are a nazi.
Also many yews didn´t get tired to say, all germans are nazis. For example Steven Spielberg don´t want to work with german actors, because "he don´t know who is standing in front of him in this moment."

So the whole thing won´t work

kind regards
Nico

Good to hear that, Murdo.





I think, only people who've never been to germany (at least not in the last 60 years) can do such things.
A really strange thing happend to me, almost a year ago, when i was still serving in the Heer. I stood in uniform on a train station, waiting for my way home. A quite nice looking older couple (late 50s, earlie 60s) came near, and asked me to show them some directions on a map, because they didn't really find their way. They were american tourists, at least i guess so, cause their english sounded like american english. They were really polite, and i was glad to help them. Then the man asked me, still polite and very serious, if i were a wehrmacht soldier or waffen-ss. First i thought, that it was a quite bad joke, but seemingly he really thought, that wehrmacht and SS still exist in germany (And thus, the nazis still be at power). Im not sure how this can be possible.

But we are really getting off topic...

Thanks alot for this map!... Im going in a few years and wanted to know where most of them were!

Nico & Jan, I was in Germany in '03 for a few months before going to Bosnia. My wife and I are coming in the fall. We're starting in London then to Normandy, Bastogne, and Berlin and finally Munich. Where are some "must see" places in Berline and Munich (I missed the Hofbrauhaus when was there, gotta visit)?? Danke!

If you are going to Munich then I would recomend a visit to Deutches Museum wich is quite close to the center - is a big technical museum. Outside town and close to Dachau is Deutsches Museum's Flugwerft Schleißheim - and ofcause the Dachau KZ camp

At Marien Platz is a toy museum thats quite nice too. Very close to Marien Platz is a shop called Manufactum thats very interesting t0 snoop around in - they only sell "all the good stuff" - preview here www.manufactum.dk

Then theres the Olympia Centrum - the place for the illfated olympic games in 1972.

Theres allso a lot of art and architacture around - and some remnants of Albert Speers designs. warm up here: http://www.thirdreichruins.com/munich.htm

You should find yourself one of the nice beergardens and enjoy some of the local brews and Weißwürste with sweet mustard and a Breze (pretzel).

Have fun

I am stationed in Germany and this is handy, thanks for the map