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Am I the only one?
Halfyank
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Posted: Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 11:12 PM UTC
Am I the only one who does this? When working on small parts, it's always a small part, usually very delicate and hard to find if lost, I always seem to go one step too far. I'll be very careful, using my finest tweezers, knifes, etc, to get something in JUST the right place. I'll get it maybe 90% exactly right, then try one more time to get it 100%. When making that last little adjustment I'll more often than not either move it totally out of place, break it, launch it to the carpet monster, or in some way ruin it. I can't tell you how often this happens.
troubble27
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Posted: Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 11:16 PM UTC
LMAO Youre not alone!! I think I could photo etch a whole model with what my carpet has "eaten" 
slodder
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Posted: Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 11:23 PM UTC
Please - that's SOP for me. I always have a few choice words for myself too. You're not alone.
keenan
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Posted: Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 11:51 PM UTC
I usually get the tiny part perfectly affixed to the model or the subassembly and then promptly drop the whole smack on the cement basement floor. Swearing like a sailor ensues...
Shaun
Shaun
Gunfighter
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 12:06 AM UTC
Definitely not alone. I think it happens on every kit that I build. What gets me is that I usually fit it the "first" time, then push it too far the second time. The Carpet Monster is usually awake at that point and read to chow down.
- Frank
- Frank
Bigskip
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 12:12 AM UTC
Not alone - me and Shaun have the same habits it seems.
Andy
Andy
Holdfast
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 01:27 AM UTC
Similar to Scott, not quit SOP, but I certainly know what you mean 
Mal
Mal
almonkey
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 01:33 AM UTC
i hate the way you think to yourself "thats it i'll leave it be" then change your mind, and make that last little adjustment that blasts pieces of your kit all over the shop! 
HONEYCUT
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 01:39 AM UTC
Yep, similar thing here...
For some stoopid reason I'd be fixing something to the turret for example, whilst the turret is on the hull... Gradually it would traverse until the locking pins are free, and then *drop*
Like toast it always lands wrong side up... This time instead of Vegemite, it is turret top with PE and Resin...
For some stoopid reason I'd be fixing something to the turret for example, whilst the turret is on the hull... Gradually it would traverse until the locking pins are free, and then *drop*
Like toast it always lands wrong side up... This time instead of Vegemite, it is turret top with PE and Resin...
Gunfighter
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 01:44 AM UTC
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Yep, similar thing here...
For some stoopid reason I'd be fixing something to the turret for example, whilst the turret is on the hull... Gradually it would traverse until the locking pins are free, and then *drop*
Like toast it always lands wrong side up... This time instead of Vegemite, it is turret top with PE and Resin...
Ah, but you might have stumbled across a solution. Attach some cheap resin & PE bits to the bottom, and the part will ethereally spin in place rather than fall.
Which reminds me of the theoretical experiment combining "cats always land on their feet" and "bread/toast/muffins/etc. always land jelly/jam/butter/er, vegemite side down". The thought is, if you buttered a cat's back and threw it up in the air, would it just spin?
Sorry, it's been a long day...
- Frank
Spades
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 01:54 AM UTC
LOL :-) . That was me just this past 4 weeks as I worked, and thankfully finished my M-47. I think it happened so much with this particular build that I am now burned out on photo-etch.
. That was me just this past 4 weeks as I worked, and thankfully finished my M-47. I think it happened so much with this particular build that I am now burned out on photo-etch. 
wbill76
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 02:55 AM UTC
I usually fall victim to that and/or while also leaning back comfortably in my chair so that everything is hanging right over the carpet instead of my workbench. :-)
old-dragon
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 02:59 AM UTC
Me too...I'm building the DML 103 jaboschreck and those 3 little "A9" pieces have gone popping off or rolling away about 3 times now...gotta have my 6 cell mag light around so I can find them on the floor each time...the PE will be a hoot{this will be 1st time for doing it} as I have no bender...but I haven't gotten to that point yet.
I like detail about as much as the next guy but these teeny tiny parts kill me! I look laughably at the Tamiya version I'd done years ago and wonder if it'll be much different looking after painted from the current DML version...trailer wise.
I'm not ashamed to say it...PE just scares me!
I like detail about as much as the next guy but these teeny tiny parts kill me! I look laughably at the Tamiya version I'd done years ago and wonder if it'll be much different looking after painted from the current DML version...trailer wise.
I'm not ashamed to say it...PE just scares me!
05Sultan
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 03:06 AM UTC
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I usually get the tiny part perfectly affixed to the model or the subassembly and then promptly drop the whole smack on the cement basement floor. Swearing like a sailor ensues...
Shaun
I speak Longshoreman...........
I build slow compared to others so,the usuall method of 'part death' is being crushed by something SWMBO dumps on top of it.It's usually something she wants fixed after she broke it during abnormal service use
jabo6
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 03:56 AM UTC
i took out my carpet and put down peel and stick tile lost parts are easioer to find, sometimes you can hear them hit the floor and get a pretty good idea were they went . since i did this my recovery of dropped /lost parts is almost 100%. i you cant remove the carpet slide a sheet of masonite under the work area. also before i pick up a small part with tweezers i wet the end so the part wont go flying off.. 
GaryKato
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 04:19 AM UTC
I can't tell you how many times I've tried to place a part prefectly. I use liquid pastic cement. I place it then go back and try again. By this time, the cement has paritally set so I can move it but after I walk away, the part creeps back to its old position. This last happened when I was putting on the hinges for the turret toolboxes on a Tamiya Merkava. I don't think any of them are on right. The crew would have an impossible time trying to get those open.
gbkirsch
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 05:03 AM UTC
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Am I the only one who does this? I'll more often than not either move it totally out of place, break it, launch it to the carpet monster, or in some way ruin it. I can't tell you how often this happens.
Great thread. I think at least once on every build, I find myself crawling around on the floor looking for the impossibly tiny piece I have just managed to launch to god knows where. Prior to this thread, I imagined it was only me but misery always loves company!!!
Gary
Henk
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 10:10 AM UTC
This is an enlightening thread indeed... I always position parts right first time, my tweezers don't launch parts across the room, and the 'carpet monster' moved out many moons ago after complaining about mal-nourishment.... 
Cheers
Henk
Only Joking I to have lost enough parts over the years to build at least one model, although maybe not the interior..
:-)
Cheers
Henk
Only Joking
I to have lost enough parts over the years to build at least one model, although maybe not the interior..:-)
Drader
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 02:31 PM UTC
Those tiny loops that hold the pulleys for the spade at the rear of the Academy M12 are easily the worst for that sort of thing. Had to rescue one from under the fridge a week ago. And there's still the last one to add 
Then there's adding the lift hooks to the cupolas of French tanks.....
David
Then there's adding the lift hooks to the cupolas of French tanks.....
David
JackFlash
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 03:20 PM UTC
Here are a few answers to your delimas.
Click Here
"...17.) Tossing a finished, expensive model kit against the furthest wall in your basement at 90mph is the most sincerest form of self-criticism. But doesn't live up to the acclaimed rush that is supposed to follow..."
Click Here
"...17.) Tossing a finished, expensive model kit against the furthest wall in your basement at 90mph is the most sincerest form of self-criticism. But doesn't live up to the acclaimed rush that is supposed to follow..."
Grumpyoldman
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 04:39 PM UTC
I never loose parts :-) :-) BUT I do manage to loose entire started models. have a few missing in action now and I've searched the house looking for them. The both are ones I did reviews on, and started for campaigns, and I'll be damned if I can find them. :-) :-)
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pipesmoker
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 07:57 PM UTC
Been there, done that, got the T-shirt, wore it out.
BTW, if your vacuum cleaner has a hose attachment, attach a pair of your wife's old panyhose at the suction end of the hose. Use this to vacuum up around your work area. I did this weekend and found six of the guide teeth from the DML M46 I'm working on. Along with some PzIV track links I had dropped.
BTW, if your vacuum cleaner has a hose attachment, attach a pair of your wife's old panyhose at the suction end of the hose. Use this to vacuum up around your work area. I did this weekend and found six of the guide teeth from the DML M46 I'm working on. Along with some PzIV track links I had dropped.
MLD
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 08:43 PM UTC
RE: Dropping parts This happens to me so often, I have gone so far as to start modelling with a white T-shirt draped across my lap.
85% of the parts I drop hit the shirt and stop, the larger ones are the ones that keep going and I can echolocate pretty well by now!
As for manuvering parts into final position, I cannot for the life of me understand why the %^#%&*$&%*% superglue will stick etch to tweezers, tweezers to tweezers on the first contact but will NOT stick etch to plastic or resin on the first contact!
Mike
85% of the parts I drop hit the shirt and stop, the larger ones are the ones that keep going and I can echolocate pretty well by now!
As for manuvering parts into final position, I cannot for the life of me understand why the %^#%&*$&%*% superglue will stick etch to tweezers, tweezers to tweezers on the first contact but will NOT stick etch to plastic or resin on the first contact!
Mike
Halfyank
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2006 - 10:06 PM UTC
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Here are a few answers to your delimas.
Click Here
"...17.) Tossing a finished, expensive model kit against the furthest wall in your basement at 90mph is the most sincerest form of self-criticism. But doesn't live up to the acclaimed rush that is supposed to follow..."
Great post Stephen! I really laughed at many of these.
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