I have just finished "An Army At Dawn" and I must say that I cannot wait until 2005 (?) for the second installment of the Liberation Trilogy. Anyway, while I am waiting, can anyone suggest a good book. It should be on the European (including Russia) Theater of operations (WW2 of course). I enjoyed Rick Atkinsons writing style so that may be one "qualifier". That you for your help,
Andrew
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2003 - 02:54 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2003 - 07:39 PM UTC
If you haven't read band of brothers, then it's a good read.
I am also reading Panzer Aces, not bad either.
I am also reading Panzer Aces, not bad either.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 02:43 AM UTC
Thanks for the suggestion but I guess I should have mentioned that I have read most of Stephen Ambroses books including BOB. Tell me more about Panzer Aces...
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Posted: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:07 AM UTC
Come on.....
Where are all of the usual guys that I talk to in this forum?
I am stumped.
Andrew
Where are all of the usual guys that I talk to in this forum?
I am stumped.
Andrew
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Posted: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 10:12 AM UTC
I have read "Panzer Aces" It was a good book. This is the description from Amazon.com:
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PANZER TANK CREWS–the most feared fighting men on earth
On September 1, 1939, Germany invaded Poland and ignited World War II with a revolutionary fighting force that would forever change the face of war. The key to blitzkrieg–“lightning war”–was large scale deployment of Panzers, German armored tanks. Aided by the tremendous air power of deadly screaming Stukas, Panzer battalions attacked swiftly, violently, smashing through enemy lines, destroying supplies and artillery positions, and shattering the enemy’s will to resist. The sheer scale of rapid-fire victories amazed the world and elevated the tank soldiers to an almost mythical status.
Panzer Aces chronicles the battles of six decorated officers who helped create the legend. Based on extensive research, these gripping narratives of D day at Normandy, the bloody campaigns in Italy, the ferocious combat at Kursk–the greatest armored battle in the history of war–and many others offer resounding evidence of how the armored tank, in German hands, became the twentieth century’s single most important development in land fighting.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 11:40 AM UTC
Is the writing style good or is the book simply a plain narrative?
Thanks,
Andrew
Thanks,
Andrew
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Posted: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 11:49 AM UTC
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Is the writing style good or is the book simply a plain narrative?
Thanks,
Andrew
It's been awhile, but I believe it's a good writing style.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 11:55 AM UTC
Read 'Meeting of Generals' by Tony Foster. Not a novel but a review of the lives of the author's father, BGen Foster who commanded the 7th Canadian Infantry Brigade and Kurt Meyer, the Commander of the 12th SS Panzer Division. Not a novel but a good yarn anyway.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 06:36 PM UTC
Oh, you can try read the series of Brotherhood of War by W.E.B. Griffin, very nice written book as well, cover an epic story from WW II to Vietnam of 3 to 4 officers.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 02:46 AM UTC
sounds interesting, tell me more...
Andrew
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Posted: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 01:21 PM UTC
Well if you really get bored like I did go buy "Black Hawk Down".This actually turned out to be one of the best books I have ever read because it cleared up a lot of mis-conceptions I felt about this particular operation.I highly suggest it to anyone who thinks they can read it.
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 03:04 AM UTC
Thanks Zach for the recommendation. I actually saw an A&E special on the Blackhawk Down operation, quite interesting.
Andrew
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 06:21 AM UTC
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Well if you really get bored like I did go buy "Black Hawk Down".This actually turned out to be one of the best books I have ever read because it cleared up a lot of mis-conceptions I felt about this particular operation.I highly suggest it to anyone who thinks they can read it.
Any minor innaccuracies aside, it's a great book and very well-written.
It would be a nice change of pace from all the WWII stuff and may make you start wanting to build some modern subjects too.
I'd like to read his other book, 'Killing Pablo', too. About the hunt for drug lord Pablo Escobar.
Steve
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 07:19 AM UTC
For anyone that has no previous military credentials before,Mark Bowden did a spectacular job describing the Battle for the Black Sea.I was surprised at the end of the book in the epilogue at how much information he initially did NOT recieve from the Pentagon at the beginning.
But enough about that or else I'll ruin the book for those who havent had the opportunity to read it yet. #:-)
But enough about that or else I'll ruin the book for those who havent had the opportunity to read it yet. #:-)
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Posted: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 06:41 AM UTC
Both of the volumes of "Panzer Aces" are well worth reading,especially the careers of Nicolussi Von Leck and kurt knispel.Another you might consider is "Hells Gate" by Doug Nash.That is about the Cherkassy/Korsun pocket and is a superb read.If neither of those grab your attention then i would also recommend "Barbarossa" by Alan Clarke for a well rounded view of the entire Russo/German conflict or "It Never Snows in September" by Robert J Kershaw.That is about the German side of Operation Market Garden and is very good,possible the best book on the German reaction to the Market Garden Operation.
Hope these give you some food for thought?
Later
Hawkeye
Hope these give you some food for thought?
Later
Hawkeye
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Posted: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 07:39 AM UTC
Thanks for all of the suggestions, so many books, very little time.
Thanks again,
Andrew
Thanks again,
Andrew