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Increase matt efect
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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 04:58 AM UTC
Hi...

I would like some help with this issue: how to increase the matt effect of a paint?

A lot of years ago, I remember I add a product to the paint, but that was 20 years ago and I can't remember anymore. I was wondering if that would be simple flat coat.
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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:11 AM UTC

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I would like some help with this issue: how to increase the matt effect of a paint?



Flat cote should do the trick.. I have never put it directly in the paint though, but gave my models a flat wash or airbrushed the stuff on the model...

Mario M.
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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:19 AM UTC
A matt varnish through the airbrush should do the trick. Not only does it gives a matt finish to the model it also acts as a protective layer to the paint.
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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:22 AM UTC
yes a flat clear coat over the paint is the way to go.. just make sure the flat coat you use is suitable for the paint your using..

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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:30 AM UTC
Excuse me, perhaps I didn't express myself correctly.... what I wanna do is find the product I used to add to the paint. Not spray over the paint. Adding a drop of this product to a given portion of paint results in a very matt solution, which can be directly applied with a brush.

I liked the effect I obtained with this solution in some textures which are specially matt in real world, like tires.
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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:33 AM UTC
The product you are asking about has been confused in the past.

Tamiya makes a additive for thier paint.
Some others do, But I'm not sure who does.

HTH
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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:34 AM UTC

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yes a flat clear coat over the paint is the way to go.. just make sure the flat coat you use is suitable for the paint your using..

I



I have airbrushed Testor's Dullcote laquer over enamels, laquer based Floquil, Tamiya, Polly S, Polly Scale and Andrea/Vallejo acrylics and artists' oils with no problem. At times, these have been quite heavy coats. The trick is to airbrush and not hand brush. I thin this with standard, everyday, run-of-the-mill hardware store, buck-a-gallon thinner.
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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 08:22 AM UTC
Olá Ricardo; first of all welcome to the most interactive and helpfull site around the net
Secondly, as was said above, the best way to have a flat finish is using a flat overcoat after the model is finished....but you can chose to use flat acrilics or enamels (Tamiya, Testors and Humbrol are some examples). But I do agree that is kindda dificult to put decals over a flat finish....
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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 11:23 AM UTC
I don't know of anything that comes in drop form that can be added to paint...other than Tamiya's flat......but you can add talc to your paint a little at a time and this will increase how flat it is.....sometimes it makes it smell better too!!!
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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 05:45 PM UTC
You can make paint more matt by adding talcum powder to it, but it might clog up if you try and airbrush it.
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Posted: Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 01:05 PM UTC
i find if u mix what u need to use in a palet or whateva its called, or even a piece of plastic sheet or anything really, it will help it to be more the matt it is supposed to be, also add just the smallest bit of a color very simillar, eg. black, u would add grey, but not enough to turn it into dark grey, this helps me, cheers
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Posted: Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 05:28 PM UTC
evenin yall,

I'd go with what Holocaust59 said bout adding a dash or two of talcum powder I use it in all the figures I do in Nam era work as well as the vehicles... towards Feb I'll see bout posting some photos of them so yall can take a gander..

Chris
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Posted: Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 09:03 PM UTC
The Tamiya product your looking for is known as Flat Base. I forgot the exact the letter-number code. XF-something something. Available both as acrylic or enamel. It's opposite number is Tamiya clear coat (or clear gloss).
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Posted: Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 04:21 PM UTC
Think the flat base paint code for Tamiya is X21
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Posted: Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 10:56 PM UTC

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Think the flat base paint code for Tamiya is X21



I think it's XF21 (it's flat, right? ) Sorry for nitpicking a wee bit. :-)
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2003 - 10:49 PM UTC
No, he is right... it is X-21.

I came here looking for this and guess what... I found a bottle lost in the bottom of my toolbox.
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Posted: Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 10:44 PM UTC
:-) Found it, I knew that I had seen it somewhere. I don't know if this is what you were refering to but Naptha (lighter fluid) might be your answer. Take the obvious precautions. And let us know if it works. If you try it.
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