You seem to eloquently defend the US lack of involvement but seem unable to see thepoint of view of the other side. No, I don't defend our lack of involvement, I defend America's monumental involvement.
You seem to defend Russia's involvement. They fought the Germans only in the east.
If there was any lack of involvement as far as totally contributing to the WW2 is was no doubt Russia.
America and her Allies fought WORLD WIDE ! ETO, PTO, MTO. And may I remind that it was the U.S. that was the monumentaly deciding factor in the Pacific and defeat of Japan.
It was also American industry that far out weighed any other countries in the stock piles of supplies and weapons given to her Allies so they would have the resources for their miltaries to win a war.
The U.S. lack of involvement / This quote alone is so far from the truth it's ridiculous. Further it's an insult to the U.S. soldiers and their families who made sacrifices to the war and war effort.
Maybe America should have let Europe fight their own war and wait until Germany actually attacked America on our own shores, just like Russia did.
Yes millions of Russians died and I commend that and pity their families, but there were also thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of Russians that were inmoraly killed & assasinated by Stalin and his commanders. As many know to well, at the front lines if men/women refused to fight or turned back/retreated ( because a person does not want to fight or has other reasons for it, even cowrdice, does not give man the authority to kill his own comrade ).
And one more thing, getting back on the original topic, Patton had high regards and respects for his fighting troops. If there were any disregards for soldiers it was the Russian commanders who sent there troops to unnessecary deaths, (soldiers as "cannon fodder " or to take fire to flush out enemy positons, Russian commander literally couldn't care if a man lived or died ). But you will make more excuses for this as in other instances.
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Well, it was hardly an argument. If you read back through the posts, Ralph, you'll see my opinion of Patton was shared by many others. If I have convinced you that there are many others who think quite differently about the subjects and opinions you hold so dear, I'd consider THAT a contest won. Fair enough?
(lol) No, sorry, you have not convinced me. So "no cigar" . Your counter arguments and also Rodgers & Steve Joyce are the only ones in my opinion that have any legitimate views & opinons here. So if this about shared opinions being a deciding factor, it looks to me as a stalemate.
I never thought of this as a contest. Since you do see it as , "I win, I win, I win" ..... it reflects a childish view.
