Seeking advice on the most efficient technique on producing narrow weld beads. I am going to attempt to place weld beads on the joints of a Wirbelwind turret.
I have tried the styrene strip/plastic cement method previously but I believe this would look too bulky.
Thanks again.
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Narrow weld beads
ModelmakerBL

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Posted: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 02:09 AM UTC
SKurj

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Posted: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 02:59 AM UTC
If you can find a soldering iron with a very fine tip that could do the job. I have one with a fairly fine conical tip that works ok.. but I think the tip is a little large to be accurate for 1/35
ModelmakerBL

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Posted: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 03:26 AM UTC
Thanks for the tip.
I have a cordless butane soldering iron with some fairly small tips. I was afraid It would be too hot. Maybe I'll try it out on some spare plastic.
I have a cordless butane soldering iron with some fairly small tips. I was afraid It would be too hot. Maybe I'll try it out on some spare plastic.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 09:23 AM UTC
Stretched sprue. You can make them as thin as you want, and depending upon the amount of liquid cement you use, as subtle as you want. It takes texturing well too.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 09:47 AM UTC
I'm with 18BRAVO on this, I've just started using stretched sprue for weld beads and find it works very well. Stretched sprue , liquid cement and an x-acto blade to texture, no muss no fuss.
Cheers
Joker
Cheers
Joker
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Posted: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 02:29 PM UTC
I appreciate the advice and will give it a try.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 02:37 PM UTC
With the stretched sprue method, what is the battle order? Do you run the cement in the groove then add the sprue, then as it softens use the blade to texturise? OR can you add cement first then sprue then more cement to soften then texture?
Cheers
Brad
Cheers
Brad
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Posted: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 03:10 PM UTC
Try Googling for weld beads + FSM and you should pick up the pdf of Jeremy Pearse's article on simulating weld beads with paint (very first hit on the list I got). For some reason I can't copy the URL or I would have put in a direct link.
EDIT go to the next post for a live link
EDIT go to the next post for a live link
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Posted: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 04:17 PM UTC
18Bravo

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Posted: Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 12:18 AM UTC
Quoted Text
With the stretched sprue method, what is the battle order? Do you run the cement in the groove then add the sprue, then as it softens use the blade to texturise? OR can you add cement first then sprue then more cement to soften then texture?
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I usually use a little cement to get it into place, let it set, and then add texturing in sections. I have used a groove on occsion, by scribing one with the back side of an old #11 blade, but that's if I want a fillet weld. For a raised one, just cement sprue directly where you want it and let it set up a bit before fiddling with it.
ModelmakerBL

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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2006 - 01:46 AM UTC
Y'all have been a big help. Thanks
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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2006 - 03:03 AM UTC
Jarrod,
I use a variation of the paint method. I use artist acrylic paint out of the tube. Apply it with a thin brush, and you can work in the texture as you go. I posted a little article over at WW2 Modelmaker about this method if you are interested. Been using it for several years with good results.
Jim
I use a variation of the paint method. I use artist acrylic paint out of the tube. Apply it with a thin brush, and you can work in the texture as you go. I posted a little article over at WW2 Modelmaker about this method if you are interested. Been using it for several years with good results.
Jim
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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2006 - 12:40 PM UTC
Jim,
The paint method really caught my eye. I dug an old T-62 out of the scrap pile I'm going to practice on. I don't have any tube acrylic paint. I have oils, enamels and Tamiya acrylics. What would you suggest out of those? And does color matter? If so what do you suggest?
The paint method really caught my eye. I dug an old T-62 out of the scrap pile I'm going to practice on. I don't have any tube acrylic paint. I have oils, enamels and Tamiya acrylics. What would you suggest out of those? And does color matter? If so what do you suggest?
ModelmakerBL

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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2006 - 12:45 PM UTC
Jim,
Is it as easy as your article makes it look?
Is it as easy as your article makes it look?
fitzgibbon505

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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2006 - 07:00 PM UTC
Yes, it really is that simple. I would definitely reccomend the tube acrylics, they are pretty inexpensive. The one caveat that I would offer is that it takes several layers if you need to build up a lot. For instance, I am builing the new DML M4A3, and I used styrene for the welds simply because I needed to fill the existing trenches as well as building it up. Had the suface been flat, I would have simply used paint. Feel free to contact me if you have further questions.
Jim
Jim
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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2006 - 08:28 PM UTC
If your going for welds added on the battle field its important to darken with black or soot around hte weld beads and have painted chips.
Usualys welders grind of hte paint before re-welding a plate,and when htey do so, the paint usualy catches fire and creats the burned effect around the weld, and its even worse when they dont bother grinding off the paint and you will also have welding splatters.
if you want i could work something out for you and get the pictures.
Frank
Usualys welders grind of hte paint before re-welding a plate,and when htey do so, the paint usualy catches fire and creats the burned effect around the weld, and its even worse when they dont bother grinding off the paint and you will also have welding splatters.
if you want i could work something out for you and get the pictures.
Frank
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Posted: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 04:19 AM UTC
Frank, That would be great. I am always looking for new ideas and techniques.
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