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australian sasr patrol vehicle
darkwolf
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Posted: Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 02:34 PM UTC
ok so i want to make an australian sasr long range patrol vehicle but there is not a model of one. the closeest is a british sas "pink panther" which is the same thing except its 4x4. not 6x6 like the australian one. can someone help me with ideas and meterials to scratchbuild the back end and extend the tray, rear fenders, and add another axel and 2 wheels.
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Posted: Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 09:38 PM UTC
Best idea would be to get two Land Rover models and cut the rear section off one behind the rear wheels and in front of the rear wheels on the other. Then add the extra rear section to the one that you cut behind the wheels. This will make a dual rear axle and the extended bed with minimal effort.
Someone reecntly did the same thig with a HMMWV here. Came out looking pretty good.

Good luck.
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Posted: Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 10:00 PM UTC
This a modern one your talking about mate?
Must be actually, anyways, if so, the Pink Panther, to the best of my knowledge, is no good for what your after, as thats the WW2 series landrover, the ones we use today are far more modern and are many series ahead.
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Posted: Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 10:17 PM UTC
Found a pic of one.


Looks like it is based on the modern Land Rover Wolf chassis, not the same as the older Pink Panther Land Rover, which was a series IIA vehicle.

As a side note, the Land Rover is a post WWII vehicle. It was originally base on surplus US Jeep chassis and developed after the war. The Pink Panther is a 1960's SAS desert version used in Africa, and the Middle East.
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Posted: Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 02:11 AM UTC

Quoted Text

the Pink Panther, to the best of my knowledge, is no good for what your after, as thats the WW2 series landrover,Cheers



David hate to tell you mate but the Landrover was not around in WW2! LOL

But you are right. The Pink Panther is an earlier model then the Aussie 6 wheeled Land Rovers. As Gino said I think the SAS ones are based on the 'Wolf' chassis.

Cheers
Cliff
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Posted: Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 03:24 AM UTC
Jeff,
Check out tue Accurate Armour website. They do the Land Rover Wolf chassis. But you'd have to buy two methinks and chop them ehere neccessary. Might work out a little expensive as well
Tom
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Posted: Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 06:16 AM UTC
Hi Jeff,

Gino's idea of scratchbuilding it out of 2 sets is a good idea. The major visual differences to the bodywork apart from the additional tyres and axle and of course the length if you do use Tamiya's Pinkie is that the front radiator grille will have to be moved to the front to be flush with 2 mudguards. The lights will have to be moved as well from the grille to the mudguards as well. The Wolf as can be seen from Gino's photo has a different grille altogether. The wings (folds on the body over the front tyres) are also more pronounced on the Wolf as compared to the Series II Pinkie. Easily done with some Milliput or AB Epoxy.

The Pinkie from Tamiya has desert tyres as well so you'll have to source for a set of coarse stud tyres (Goodyear but I've forgotten the model no.). Sourcing for the tyres could be a bit tough as only AA has the real thingy if you're a stickler for accuracy.

You'll need some sheet stryene to raise up the sides immediately after the front door to make a internal storage for the spare tires.

Quite a challenge you've got yourself there.
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Posted: Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 08:04 AM UTC
thanks for the info guys. i was thinking of just buying the set again and doing the cut method. seems to be the cheapest method but as for tyres i think im going to have to keep the ones it comes with for now.my cousin is doing the same model and is converting his to the aussie land rover. he has used some humvee parts on his to make it look more modern like the front bumper. anyways im heading into town now to scout for another pink panther. any more ideas or info would be great.
thanks again
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Posted: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 12:55 AM UTC
Hi
I dont know if youve already visited this site but

www.mheaust.com.au/index.html

specialises in Aussie stuff, including a workaround and description of the vehicle you are building.
They also sell plans of it and various other bits that may be of use, however they do worn that the suspension etc is much more complicated than a standard110 coil sprung landrover.
The old pinkpanther had the old leaf springs.
As well as the accurate armour model a 110landrover can be had in resin by an Italian company called historica, sorry cant remember their site address.
If you are prepared to put up with something less than 100% it shouldnt be to hard to extend the chassis and mount an extra axle as most of whats underneath cant be seen anyways.
cheers
peter
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Posted: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 01:07 AM UTC
Hi again
If you need more photos the Aussie SAS is covered in the book
Special Forces in Afghanistan including a number of photos of the sasr.
If i remember right there was also coverage in Combat and Survival magazine, not sure of the issue and wont have time until the weekend to search through my stash of magazines.
The sas boys also used normal 4x4 110lrs in Afghanistan
cheers
peter
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Posted: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 01:38 AM UTC
tamiya make a landrover ambulance heres a pic

You may be able to use this for your conversion
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Posted: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 02:16 AM UTC
As mentioned, the suspension needs to be changed, but perhaps more diffucult is the fact the 6x6 is wider than a regular 110, so you'd have to chop it right down the middle and add an insert.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 08:50 PM UTC
Jeff,

A 1/35 scale plan of the Australian 6x6 Special Air Service Patrol Vehicle appeared in Tankette Volume 28/6.

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