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Posted: Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 03:07 PM UTC
Hi all,

I heard from someone that the thinner from Mr Color cannot be used for Tamiya's paints and vice versa. Is that true? I got conflicting comments from 2 hobby shop and am wondering if you guys could advise.

So far, I have been using Mr Color's thinner on Tamiya's paint and found nothing strange. Did i miss anything?

Cheers!
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Posted: Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 05:16 PM UTC
Hmm... I'm not so sure. I use Mr Color Acrylic paints for airbrushing and I mix them with Mr Color's Thinner (No problem). Haven't tried them with Tamiya Acrylic paints though. But I guess if it's working for you... then you should just carry on.. yep...
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Posted: Monday, November 07, 2005 - 01:02 AM UTC
I tried thinning Tamiya paint with it and found no problem or whatsoever.

Anyway, i personally prefer to use water as a thinner. Cheap and reliable!

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Posted: Monday, November 07, 2005 - 03:59 PM UTC
Thanks guys, I guess I am not alone then!

Cheers!
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Posted: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 03:46 AM UTC
Hi Dan

If I am not wrong Mr.Color range is basically a Laquer based paint. If you mean this
http://www.best1hobby.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=168&Product_Code=GUMRCOLOR1

Compared to Acrylics they are much stronger and not much problem when u use oil washes.

For Tamiya acralycs it is not a necessary to use Mr. Color thinner. You are better off using water. Why spoil your lungs when there is a better alternative.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 02:26 PM UTC
I learnt something new... I didn't know Tamiya Acrylics can be thinned using water. But we all know, when Tamiya Acrylics are left to stand for a while, there's a layer of "clear fluid" ontop of the paint. Do you mix them up or pour them away?
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Posted: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 03:14 PM UTC

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Hi Dan

If I am not wrong Mr.Color range is basically a Laquer based paint. If you mean this
http://www.best1hobby.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=168&Product_Code=GUMRCOLOR1

Compared to Acrylics they are much stronger and not much problem when u use oil washes.

For Tamiya acralycs it is not a necessary to use Mr. Color thinner. You are better off using water. Why spoil your lungs when there is a better alternative.


Good point from you, newnikonian. Will attempt to switch water for Tamiya in future.

Cheers!
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Posted: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 05:50 PM UTC
Hi

Thanks for the compliment

But a word of caution before you switch entirely to water. It takes more time to dry and because of that many have changed to isoprop. alcohal (cheaper than Tamiya Thinner). Possibility of spoiling the finish with your fingerprint is more.

So take that decision carefully. Sorry I should have mentioned this earlier. I am still sticking with Mr.Color next best thing to sniffing glue (LOL)

Check this thread
http://armorama.co.uk/forums/26512&page=1

Have fun
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Posted: Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 02:57 AM UTC
Sure, no problem. Will think thru or may short trial b4 switching completely.

Cheers!
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Posted: Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 03:33 AM UTC

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I learnt something new... I didn't know Tamiya Acrylics can be thinned using water. But we all know, when Tamiya Acrylics are left to stand for a while, there's a layer of "clear fluid" ontop of the paint. Do you mix them up or pour them away?


That 'clear fluid' helps you mix the paint pigments when you shake or stir the bottle, do not throw it away!!!

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Posted: Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 01:50 PM UTC

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I learnt something new... I didn't know Tamiya Acrylics can be thinned using water. But we all know, when Tamiya Acrylics are left to stand for a while, there's a layer of "clear fluid" ontop of the paint. Do you mix them up or pour them away?


That 'clear fluid' helps you mix the paint pigments when you shake or stir the bottle, do not throw it away!!!



What happens if you replace the fluid with water?? I guess it's a dumb question... LOL.. :-)
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Posted: Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 01:46 AM UTC
I've been using Tamiya acrylic paint for most of my modelling life. While using water is a viable (and economical) way of thinning the paint for achieving better fluidity and ease of use/control, water will eventually "kill" the paint. The bottle will not last till its last drop and usually will degrade into paint pigment lumps and water. And when you apply this degraded paint onto the item, a good coverage will never again be achieve. Hence I advise, to use thinner - and if possible, the same brand ones - if you want your bottle of paint to last longer.
I have tried using industrial IPA (cleaning alcohol which comes in a big bucket cheap) for thinning of my acrylic paint and it kills the paint instantly. So you can forget about using those. Now I used it to clean my brushes (++)
But I was told by one shop that Gunze Sangyo Mr Color acrylic paint must use back the same brand thinner for diluting purpose.
I'm now still trying to find a brand of acrylic paint that I can use happily and economically ie with water and still kept its quality. Am currently trying on one brand and its as good so far. I'll reserve further comments until I have finish a bottle.
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Posted: Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 02:43 AM UTC

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I'm now still trying to find a brand of acrylic paint that I can use happily and economically ie with water and still kept its quality. Am currently trying on one brand and its as good so far. I'll reserve further comments until I have finish a bottle.


Hi DAK.. try Vallejo.. I use water to thin the paint and it works fine. Cost wise... almost the same as Tamiya Acrylics..

But I would like to hear about the current paint you're using... if it does prove to be economical, do share it with us..
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Posted: Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 01:55 PM UTC

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I'm now still trying to find a brand of acrylic paint that I can use happily and economically ie with water and still kept its quality. Am currently trying on one brand and its as good so far. I'll reserve further comments until I have finish a bottle.


Hi DAK.. try Vallejo.. I use water to thin the paint and it works fine. Cost wise... almost the same as Tamiya Acrylics..

But I would like to hear about the current paint you're using... if it does prove to be economical, do share it with us..


I have heard of Vallejo and all the good it makes. Just don't know where I can find them in Singapore. Any tips?
About the paint I used, I think its Humbrol acrylics but I cannot confirm it (cannot remember) as currently I'm out of SIngapore on a company's trip in India
When I am back, will update you again
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Posted: Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 08:33 PM UTC

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I have heard of Vallejo and all the good it makes. Just don't know where I can find them in Singapore. Any tips?


I know M-Workshop has it... they got a whole range too.


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as currently I'm out of SIngapore on a company's trip in India. When I am back, will update you again


India... hmm... that does sound fun... LOL. Alright... keep us posted.
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Posted: Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 07:22 PM UTC
OK Thanks JM
I'll check out the paints when I am back in Singapore.
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Posted: Friday, November 18, 2005 - 12:31 PM UTC
To all the Modelling "Kaki's"

I sincerely recommend 'Vellejo Model Color'.

Quite a number of shop in Singapore does carries and they are as follows:

1. Shaw ( the prince and Jade cinema at beach road). I dun know wats the name of the shop but they carries the whole range which includes the air-brush paint at a cost of $4.00

2. Orchard Store at Specialist center which the shop keeper have a color chart to assist you in using wat color to paint certain models. They price at $3.90.

3. The shop in Sunshine behind the Gundam shop (taken care by the unfriendly shop keeper that dun do models and dun know anything) price at $4.

4. The M- workshop in Sunshine also dun carry vellejo but "Andrea Color" which have a limited range.

btw, does anybody know that central hobby plus used to be in centerpoint had been relocated to Le Meridien?

Happy modellng.
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Posted: Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 05:01 PM UTC

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3. The shop in Sunshine behind the Gundam shop (taken care by the unfriendly shop keeper that dun do models and dun know anything) price at $4.


:-) ... Now at least I know not to visit that one...


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4. The M- workshop in Sunshine also dun carry vellejo but "Andrea Color" which have a limited range.


I always thought Andrea Color is the same as Vallejo... am I wrong??


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btw, does anybody know that central hobby plus used to be in centerpoint had been relocated to Le Meridien?


Yup... realized that. But haven't visited them for a while... Do they have a wider range now than before? They don't really specilize in something (e.g. armor/battleship)... more of "cha-pa-lang"
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 01:47 AM UTC
I'm back finally!
As promised, the acrylic I used is indeed Humbrol. In full : Humbrol Super Hobby Acrylic.


Picture courtesy from : http://www.adriansslotcarworld.co.uk

I got it from the hobby shop at 1st level Far East Shopping Center. Forgot the price but I think is S$2.80 ea.

Gotta check out vellejo at Orchard store soon.
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 11:57 PM UTC
Hi Yee,

Thanks for the info! All along, i thought Humbrol only offered enamels!

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Posted: Friday, November 25, 2005 - 01:21 AM UTC

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Hi Yee,

Thanks for the info! All along, i thought Humbrol only offered enamels!



LOL... that's what I thought too... Humbrol = enamels, until I saw Acrylics in Parkway Parade.

I know MPH at Parkway Parade sells Humbrol paints. But such small bottles, how long can 1 last? Is it worth the money?
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