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Future - problem
cfbush2000
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Posted: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 09:11 AM UTC
I did my first Future application and all went well. I brushed the future on the decal locations, applied the decals and sprayed Dull coat.
On my second try I can still clearly see the future areas after 3 coats of dull coat (MM). Any idea why? Maybe I brushed the Future on too thick?
Also, anyone have an idea how to fix it? More coats of dull coat? Spray the entire model with Future then dull coat? Heavy weathering (the armor modeler's friend)?
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Posted: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 09:23 AM UTC
Chuck - you can recover from this problem. I believe you applied the Future Floor Finish too thickly as an undercoat for the decal.

What I do is to lay a little bit down with a brush as the undercoat like you did. Then apply the decal and let it setup completely. Once set, apply another coat of Future to seal it and blend in the area. Sometimes, I apply further thin brush coats to buildup a layer of thickness equal to the thickness of the decal. If this is a Tamiya armor decal - go carefully - because these puppies are thick. Once I reach the thickness of the decal itself, one final brush coat of Future blends it in totally. Let the Future setup at least four hours between thickness coats for good results.

Anytime I work decals or dry-transfers with Future, I let it setup overnight, before applying any lacquer gloss or dull cotes.

Another trick I use is what I like to call a "Dust Cote". The photos of my M45 Pershing below show the Dust Cote over top of a Future Finish. I make "Dust Cote" by adding 5 drops of Tamiya XF-57 Buff and 5 drops of Tamiya XF-19 Sky Grey to 1 1/2ounces of Dull Cote Lacquer. I thin this mixture 50% with Lacquer Thinner and apply it with an airbrush. What this does is both flatten your model's finish and creates a soft filter for the colors underneath - wiping out the glossy Future in the process.



Straight Future applied and blended all over the area of a model above.



The "Dust Cote" applied as a filter and duller for the sheen. Hope this helps you out a bit...

Gunnie
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Posted: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 09:29 AM UTC
Dang, Gunnie! That M45 looks great!!!
Can't wait to see the finished model!!! :-)

YodaMan
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Posted: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 09:29 AM UTC
Thanks Gunnie
I"ll let things cure for a day or so and try your "Dush Coat" method.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 09:30 AM UTC
Gunnie, what an intriguing technique. I will try it (and probably be begging you for advice after I screw it up!).
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Posted: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 09:30 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Thanks Gunnie
I"ll let things cure for a day or so and try your "Dush Coat" method.



Thanks YodaMan!

Chuck - no problemo - give me a shout if something goes awry!

Gunnie
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Posted: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 - 09:32 AM UTC
YodaMan - you said a mouthfull!! Nice M45,
Nice technique Gunnie. I'll have to remember that one
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Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2002 - 07:26 PM UTC
Hey gunnie how do get the relistic metle LIke apearance Could YOu Pm Me HOw
Thanks Barnden
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