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Use of Linoleum on IJN Decks
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Posted: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 01:18 PM UTC
This is the continuation of a discussion that began in the Warships. This is an interesting topic considering the state of Japan in 1939.

Here is the original thread.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/57353&page=1

If you have your own theories, or perhaps the actual reason why they used linoleum, I'd sure like to hear them as I'm sure others would.



And while you're over there, take a moment and check out Rick's IJN cruiser.


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Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 03:26 AM UTC
I have trouble imagining walking on wet lino too, specially if hob-nails were involved. I did a bit of googling on the British equivalent Corticene and found this very long thread on decks which contains some more musing on linoleum.

http://www.j-aircraft.com/faq/naval_ship_colors.htm

Word-search for 'linoleum' to find the start of the debate.

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Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 08:30 AM UTC
I asked on a history board I hang out at. The only thing anybody could come up with, including one from a retired navy Chief, was to keep the decks clean. I still think that's way to simple an explanation for something that must have been scarce, because of the oil shortage.
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 02:58 PM UTC
Hi All, From Steel Navy came these replies:


Quoted Text

There was metal under the decks of the Cruisers-
Mogami had her Linolium ripped out on her last
mission, but another source claims it was still in
place.(at least on the AA deck.)

Fuso had her Linolium ripped off her quarter deck, for
her last mission, as did Yamashiro. There was wood
underneath.

The Japanese heavy cruisers were very much overweight,
but that was because of attempting to do too much on
too little of a displacement. The pre- treaty Light
Cruisers also had linolium decking as well- they were
all well within their weight limits. It's probabably
not due to weight issues.

There was a shortage of wood in Japan- Most Japanese
rifles have 2 peice stocks for that reason... but
again, either metal or wood was under the linolium.
I think you are asking the right question- why did
other navies persist in using wood?
Wooden decks are considerably cooler than steel ones-
could that be the reason?

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1 Wood decks heavy
2 Linoleum less expensive
3 Wood hard to come by in Japan?
A better question is why other nations used hardwood
decks. Maybe a carry over from sailing ship days but
how much wood do you see on modern warships?
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There are two theories, both which came from IJN
survivors. Theory one, and true to an extent was that
Linolium was an excellent no skid material. Secondly,
the Linoleum kept below decks cool during warm times
and warm during the winter.

These theories are anecdotal, so I am not sure how
accurate it is. One thing that is sure, Linolum burns
like crazy- pics of Japansese Cruisers on fire show
the decks literally blazing away.

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Posted: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 06:37 AM UTC
That's the way I've always understood it. Wood is extremely scare in Japan...."paper Houses". Linoleum was a substitue for wood. On the early battleships like Fuso and Hyuga class you might find wood underneath . Of course carriers used wood, and I think Yamato/Musahi did as well. All ships had metal decks underneath and the wood / linoleum was for the crews to walk on.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 12:32 PM UTC
Being from Louisiana, I can understand wanting to insulate from the heat. Any thing to block the oven effect would be useful. I'm building the Tamiya Mogami in it's final configuration. This is coming in handy.

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