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  Big News For Modellers From Osprey Publishing!
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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 12:06 AM UTC
The coming months are going to see yet more titles from Osprey Publishing in their highly-acclaimed ''Modelling Series''. Three new titles for armor modellers, one for Aviation modellers and, for the first time one for the Figure enthusiasts. The full story can be seen:

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If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!
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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 12:24 AM UTC
I suspect the Churchill book will one day magically appear on my book shelf...

I like the addition of a figure modelling book to this series, and I certainly hope it's the first of many... my only thought about this topic, however (and perhaps predictably) is how on earth have all those Axis modellers been painting their coveted SS troops up until now? I suppose it's a title that appeals to the masses... as are the other titles here... fuelling the Axis fire, so to speak...

Jim, you are undoubtably cursing me now for sparking this tedious debate, but I often wonder with this subject where it's demand determining supply.... or supply dictating demand...

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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 12:47 AM UTC
HI, Thanks for the posting here, esp. where it concerns the Panzer IV and SS figure painting books. Looks really nice.

Take care, Sgirty
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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 12:51 AM UTC
I, for one, look forward to acquiring the books on the Churchill, early Panzer IV, and figure modeling. Thanks , Jim, for the review.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 01:55 AM UTC

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my only thought about this topic, however (and perhaps predictably) is how on earth have all those Axis modellers been painting their coveted SS troops up until now? I suppose it's a title that appeals to the masses... as are the other titles here... fuelling the Axis fire, so to speak...



Curiously enough, for Osprey to begin a new series within a series (so to speak..), the only logical choice would be Waffen SS.. The reason for that is very simple, look here on the painting forums, and one of the questions which constantly gets asked is about Waffen SS camo - following that to its logical conclusion...

The other two armor books are, to my mind at least, also uttely logical - the PzIV is going to become very big as a modelling subject in the coming months as did (and continues) the 251 Series. At the present moment, the dumbest possible move (financially) for Osprey, would be a book on the Sherman. Now that would be really stupid as we're going to have the new Ampersand book in a few months...Jim
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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 02:16 AM UTC
Ditto for me, the Churchill book showing up on my bookcase. I won't even begrudge the German fans that SS book, seems to make perfect sense to me also. I will be interested in looking at it. I have the Osprey book on painting WWII figures, and I'm frankly underwhelmed by it. Doesn't give near enough detailed step by step "how to" for my tastes. The Modeling books I've gotten so far, M3/M5 light tanks and US Tank Destroyers, have been great sources of how to so I hope this SS book will be also. I might even get it to learn how to paint the DML 2nd Armored camo uniforms.

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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 02:35 AM UTC
Next to MARPAT (and soon the ACUs when they come in numbers), I think SS camo is abou the hardest camo to paint. There are just about as many was to paint camo (beit BDUs, SS, etc) as there are modellers that paint this camo. Just like tips for doing Zimmerit, or painting faces, or this or that. Everyone has a idea that works and wants others to hear about it.

Doing what is most popular for a 'pilot' book on, as Jim put it, a "series in a series" makes sense to me.

Good report.

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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 02:49 AM UTC
AFAIK The cover of the SS figure book is a mock up and the Author will actually be Stefan Mueller Herdemertens unless Calvin Tan is also writing a book about SSuniforms to be released by Osprey- that would be too much.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 03:06 AM UTC
Calvin has been writing a book on converting and painting SS guys for some time. This is Calvin's book that is being listed.

To my knowledge there is another by SMH and potentially one by Jaume Ortiz and Dani Alfonsa (Paras?), but don't quote me on that!

If that's the calibre of figure modellers Osprey are using then the series must be a winner
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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 05:04 AM UTC
Any way to get the ISBN for the books. Barnes and Noble can order them if they have the ISBN
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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 05:13 AM UTC

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Any way to get the ISBN for the books. Barnes and Noble can order them if they have the ISBN



Any bookseller can order them if the Title, Author and Publisher detail is given. The ISBN is not needed..

As I mentioned in the news story, they are NOT available yet....Jim

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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 05:44 AM UTC
Well I can't wait for the Churchill book...I know Mark and a few of the collaborators and have gotten a few sneak peaks of what is going to be in this book....This book is going to be worth every cent..

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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 09:16 PM UTC
Sorry my mistake
Stefan's book will be on german army tankers.


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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 10:06 PM UTC
to add something to what jeff said about camo Try painting the aussie camo - nick named bunny pattern -colour over colout with lines in between have done 3 figure for friends, I used to work at HQ 1st Military district in brissie and my fiends were warrant officer 1's and boy were they fussy - so keep your marpat and try Aussie camo :-) :-) :-) no I do understand and it is good to have a book on the ss because the tips will help with any camo sameas someone who does tartan cause it works for all patterns
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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 10:24 PM UTC

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I do understand and it is good to have a book on the ss because the tips will help with any camo sameas someone who does tartan cause it works for all patterns



I have also made the point that that the techniques for vehicles in the Osprey series are equally applicable for all vehicles - not just the subject of the book. Sadly, there are people who don't see these books as truly 'Multi-use'... There are simply NOT enough books out there on Camo. techniques, this for me is a total 'must-have'...Jim
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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 10:44 PM UTC
LOL no truck books :-)

but the Churchill one may find it's way to me though as I have discovered that we had a couple here on trial in the later part of WW2.

cheers
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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 11:06 PM UTC

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I do understand and it is good to have a book on the ss because the tips will help with any camo sameas someone who does tartan cause it works for all patterns



I have also made the point that that the techniques for vehicles in the Osprey series are equally applicable for all vehicles - not just the subject of the book. Sadly, there are people who don't see these books as truly 'Multi-use'... There are simply NOT enough books out there on Camo. techniques, this for me is a total 'must-have'...Jim



I suppose the other point of note on this line of argument is that SS camo techniques led the way in what military forces have been using for the last 50-60 years...

I concede that it may well find it's way into my library... but at this point I doubt it'll be used for SS camo, but as a point of departure for others... like the East German splinter camo (Strichmuster) used by SWAPO, PLAN, and then S/Africa...



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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 11:07 PM UTC
Any of you guys watching the OIF camo tutorial on the TimeLines site? I'm gobsmacked!
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Posted: Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 12:55 AM UTC

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make no bones about being a true 'enthusiast' of this series I own a number of the titles


Same here. I love these books. Last year I stopped buying Military modelling, military in scale, FSM, etc. etc. as they were not of interest (or too little interest for the price) any more. These new books fill that void.
Its great to pick one up, if you are modelling that subject, but the others are equally worthwhile and have great hints, tips, ideas, etc. that are unbeatable.
I believe that anybody who enjoys a magazine will like the style used.
I was overjoyed to hear that there was a figure book coming out, and now to hear there will be more of them .... yippee!
The only downfall about some books is that they are released in time for a new run of models, but to meet that schedule they have used older models. The Sd.Kfz 251 book (is an example of what I mean) ... is mostly tamiya versions and the first Dragon C .... . Theres nothing about the later kits. I know the info contained is priceless, but it would be great to have the likes of Dragons 251/22 or drilling or flame thrower included or the AFV Clubs. The same will probably be with the Bison/Grille book .... Trumpeters version might not get included (guess!).
Anyways ........ all good news, and Id be interested in all that are mentioned in the news article. With Sweden prices, one of these books is cheaper than two of the above mentioned magazines, so i reckon they are great value.
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Posted: Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 02:01 AM UTC
As at the moment I'm hung up with the Panzer I, I inadvertently pre-ordered (a big no-no for me) their "Modelling the German15cm sIG33 Bison and Grille (Osprey Modelling 19)" instead of getting Nuts&Bolts's version. Well hopefully this will pay off…

Anybody got any further info/review/news on their "Special Forces Camps in Vietnam 1961–70"?

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Posted: Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 03:51 AM UTC
Greetings, my friends...just a little heads up...look out in the next week or two, I will be submitting product reviews for # 19 and #21 of this new series...the others aren't due out until late September from Osprey...I've been waiting patiently for the pre-releases to hit my mailbox!
Gunny
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Posted: Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 07:55 PM UTC
I hope the figure book sells well, and thus encourages them to do more in that vein.
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