All,
All pics now in gallery--- question is dio or base.....at impass any ideas:
answers on a post -card to........
Thoughts please..show in 3 weeks ,
aye,
barv
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Alacran ---dio or base
Posted: Monday, March 28, 2005 - 08:08 AM UTC
Posted: Monday, March 28, 2005 - 08:44 AM UTC
You had me fooled with the first pic, I thought that was a real one... :-) .
That is a fine looking machine, nice to see something different. As for ideas, maybe a small dio, with the digger used to dig a trench or tanktrap? Would need a bit more mud though
Maybe a soldier with a paper and a toilet roll, shouting at the driver 'hurry up with that latrine' ? :-) :-) .
Cheers
Henk
That is a fine looking machine, nice to see something different. As for ideas, maybe a small dio, with the digger used to dig a trench or tanktrap? Would need a bit more mud though
Maybe a soldier with a paper and a toilet roll, shouting at the driver 'hurry up with that latrine' ? :-) :-) .
Cheers
Henk
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Posted: Monday, March 28, 2005 - 08:47 AM UTC
Good looking model Steve.
Dio or base? I think it would look good in a dio. Putting that big shovel into use.
Dio or base? I think it would look good in a dio. Putting that big shovel into use.
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Posted: Monday, March 28, 2005 - 08:56 AM UTC
Three weeks huh - I dunno....
You've done a great job on it to this point. My thoughts are that to put this in a diorama you're going to have to really dirty it up and add a lot of dirt and gunk all over the suspension and bucket. If you only have a limited amount of time you may run into a problem or not like the results and you'd be hard pressed to 'fix' it in time.
My personal idea on a diorama would include a couple of figures and some extensive ground work. Time time time....
So I would make a small ovalish base with some grass very similar to what its on now. I'd add a lot of pastels to the grass to tone it down. I'd go with an oval to reduce the amount of 'dead' space and let the viewer focus on the vehicle and not much else.
You've done a great job on it to this point. My thoughts are that to put this in a diorama you're going to have to really dirty it up and add a lot of dirt and gunk all over the suspension and bucket. If you only have a limited amount of time you may run into a problem or not like the results and you'd be hard pressed to 'fix' it in time.
My personal idea on a diorama would include a couple of figures and some extensive ground work. Time time time....
So I would make a small ovalish base with some grass very similar to what its on now. I'd add a lot of pastels to the grass to tone it down. I'd go with an oval to reduce the amount of 'dead' space and let the viewer focus on the vehicle and not much else.
Posted: Monday, March 28, 2005 - 09:28 AM UTC
Thanks all.......bucket is detachable ...donna wanna put cam and scrim on like pic........score 2-1 so far ------3 weeks ok for dio(small-wee small) or base with figs---2 hatches open not front
...may -be? Keep going I might catch up...brain in
aye,
BARV
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Posted: Monday, March 28, 2005 - 09:29 AM UTC
Hey Barv i'm with the rest..dio man dio. I can see that machine digging a hole with a pile of dirt next to it. Some hand tools laying around..yeah bro, dio.
Great job man that really came out great, good luck on what ever you decide
Edit: have your figures looking in the hole as they found a gas line or something.
Great job man that really came out great, good luck on what ever you decide
Edit: have your figures looking in the hole as they found a gas line or something.
Posted: Monday, March 28, 2005 - 09:52 AM UTC
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Edit: have your figures looking in the hole as they found a gas line or something.
Or even run as fast as they can... I would run like hell if a digger hit a gas pipe.
Good thinking though, what about a bomb?
Cheers
Henk
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Posted: Monday, March 28, 2005 - 09:59 AM UTC
A small Dio of the crew after cleaning the machine. It could have some mud and dirt around and the crew could be the dirty ones. After all we all had to clean our equipment. Could make for a different type of scene. You could use the existing base that you have used for the photos so far and enhance it. I love this piece of equipment!
Posted: Monday, March 28, 2005 - 10:38 AM UTC
All,
Mucho's gracias--etc.......... ?
Any -one know what Spanish fatigues look like...?
Keep it up its perculating through or its ...
you've got me starting to think....won't sleep now .
Remember I got 3 weeks ...10 days on holiday will wife let me take it with me
aye
barv
Mucho's gracias--etc.......... ?
Any -one know what Spanish fatigues look like...?
Keep it up its perculating through or its ...
you've got me starting to think....won't sleep now .
Remember I got 3 weeks ...10 days on holiday will wife let me take it with me
aye
barv
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Posted: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 01:46 AM UTC
Steve, now that latrine idea may not sound like to bad of an idea, you could have one guy with a measuring stick to stab the hole to tell when they got it deep enough. say a pole a little longer then the mans height with lines on it, that he could be holding.
Then just have one or 2 buckets worth taken out of the hole, and then to add to the realism you could have a double out house ready to slide over the hole when they get it finished, probably a couple more men with shovels to trim up the hole, cause I never seen a perfect backhoe operator dig a hole that didn't need a little shovel work.
This is 2 votes for the latrine idea, just maybe a little different way, but mine will take 3 standing figures of course 2 could be setting they don't matter, cause only one will be working then scratch an outhouse, which that will be easy. a lot easier then what you done so far.
Kerry
Then just have one or 2 buckets worth taken out of the hole, and then to add to the realism you could have a double out house ready to slide over the hole when they get it finished, probably a couple more men with shovels to trim up the hole, cause I never seen a perfect backhoe operator dig a hole that didn't need a little shovel work.
This is 2 votes for the latrine idea, just maybe a little different way, but mine will take 3 standing figures of course 2 could be setting they don't matter, cause only one will be working then scratch an outhouse, which that will be easy. a lot easier then what you done so far.
Kerry
Posted: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 06:23 AM UTC
,
Hey guys are you trying to tell me that my effort is a load of ....C@@P------"cludgies-"-----I have never ,in all my years of service , had a "thunder-head" dug for me by a mech shovel , Must be a modern tech thing ---more insulting ,..by an engineers tank.
,ah me , and I thought it was a reasonable attempt...... (consults manual of field hygine)----nothing to say it can't be done Going up-stairs --got to -----dios -6 ..bases -1
aye(cludgies??)
barv
Hey guys are you trying to tell me that my effort is a load of ....C@@P------"cludgies-"-----I have never ,in all my years of service , had a "thunder-head" dug for me by a mech shovel , Must be a modern tech thing ---more insulting ,..by an engineers tank.
,ah me , and I thought it was a reasonable attempt...... (consults manual of field hygine)----nothing to say it can't be done Going up-stairs --got to -----dios -6 ..bases -1
aye(cludgies??)
barv
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 12:59 AM UTC
I didn't think you would have room to dig a ten mile long power line, even scaled down, the only way to make it look real, it would haft to be awful long. But I guess you got the room, you can do what you want.
I thought that would look neat, with the outhouse, but I guess what is one mans treasure, is another mans junk. Steve I pray you don't haft to see the importance of this function of your life to the severity that I have, as you get older priorities change. I remember in trucking, I would park some place close to eat, but as I got older, the only thing that mattered was, if they had facilities close, I could always put off eating, but when mother nature calls when you get older, you listen, or pay.
Remember the joke about the [auto-censored], that wanted to be boss, I'll pray that never happens, cause that joke is true, and it gets a lot worse then that.
Kerry
I thought that would look neat, with the outhouse, but I guess what is one mans treasure, is another mans junk. Steve I pray you don't haft to see the importance of this function of your life to the severity that I have, as you get older priorities change. I remember in trucking, I would park some place close to eat, but as I got older, the only thing that mattered was, if they had facilities close, I could always put off eating, but when mother nature calls when you get older, you listen, or pay.
Remember the joke about the [auto-censored], that wanted to be boss, I'll pray that never happens, cause that joke is true, and it gets a lot worse then that.
Kerry
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Posted: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 02:06 AM UTC
I like the idea of the outhouse, but I would put a General standing next to it with a roll of TP waiting to use it. :-)
Jesse
Jesse
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Posted: Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 03:27 AM UTC
Barv, great looking build. I agree with a dio, BUT, if you have a show in just under 3 weeks, I would go for a base at this point, then build the dio after the show. Would hate to see things go bad due to hurrying to make a dead line. Just my thoughts. Once again, nice build. "Q"
Posted: Monday, April 11, 2005 - 09:09 AM UTC
All,
Just back from holls-----got nothing done -tribe were too busyto leave me alone. Any way time is even shorter as I have to put out models for Perth Show PR display ----another day gone. Will decide to-morrow on what it will be-------many thanks to you all for he interest ...was hesitant...now i'm almost sure that I may make the desicion shortly
Definately (may) decide to-morrow.
aye,
barv
ps ...got the decals --Accurate Armour to the rescue again
Just back from holls-----got nothing done -tribe were too busyto leave me alone. Any way time is even shorter as I have to put out models for Perth Show PR display ----another day gone. Will decide to-morrow on what it will be-------many thanks to you all for he interest ...was hesitant...now i'm almost sure that I may make the desicion shortly
Definately (may) decide to-morrow.
aye,
barv
ps ...got the decals --Accurate Armour to the rescue again
Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 10:11 AM UTC
"DIO".........and thats the decision.
Now for a fast and furious bit of building.......basics can be done in 20 mins.......this is first time in 30 yrs making diorama's so
Spitting feathers by Sunday,
aye
BARV
Posted: Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 09:27 PM UTC
STARTED...........3hrs into it......Best Bordon soil off training area being used--new I had a reason to keep a bag full.......
Now for the hard part .........figures
Aye,
BARV
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Posted: Friday, April 15, 2005 - 07:43 AM UTC
VERY...VERY good the mud is awesome!!!
Posted: Friday, April 15, 2005 - 10:36 AM UTC
Kaporral,
Its all in the hair-spray-----and flock......railway stuff---spread and spray.
Only make sure modell is clear or you got shiny tank-----base took 2hrs to prepare and 1 hour tobuild up ground effects------not to bad for 1st effort in many moons
aye,
BARV
Its all in the hair-spray-----and flock......railway stuff---spread and spray.
Only make sure modell is clear or you got shiny tank-----base took 2hrs to prepare and 1 hour tobuild up ground effects------not to bad for 1st effort in many moons
aye,
BARV
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 01:28 AM UTC
I can't believe only an hour, it takes me that long to open the bottle of glue LOL.
Kerry
Kerry
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 04:50 AM UTC
Steve, the numbers on the turret should be light blue...Jim
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Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 06:10 AM UTC
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Kaporral,
hey
kaporaal isn't my name it has to be korporaal and that is dutch for corporal.
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Its all in the hair-spray
I use hairspray too for the groundwork
Posted: Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 06:56 AM UTC
,,,both tracks off..........
Sorry FABIAN--- will clean my specs
Jim,.my pic have got "white"--"blue" and --"black" numbers on blue rectangles
Regimental thing....????
....do not have "blue" decals
aye,
BARV
Sorry FABIAN--- will clean my specs
Jim,.my pic have got "white"--"blue" and --"black" numbers on blue rectangles
Regimental thing....????
....do not have "blue" decals
aye,
BARV
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Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 12:26 AM UTC
no problem you couldn't know