If the Gemsbok still the main recovery vehicle used by the SANDF?

Anyone got any pictures of this vehicle?

Hi

Unfortunately no. It has been replaced by the Withings I think or something like it. I will ask my buddy in the Tiffies here in Potch if they have some pics. Why planning to build one?

Theunis

A fellow Armorama'rer from Scotland by the name of barv contacted me asking about SA recovery vehicles. The only vehicle I came across was the Gemsbok, while looking through the pictures of "The Covert War" in the CNA yesterday.

He's a really friendly guy, so if you find any pics or reference material PM or mail him. He'll be very grateful for any help.

I will try. The Gemsbok is bit of a bugger as it wasn't really used by the SADF. It is a Casspir chasis on which a mine protected cab and load bed was mounted. The Police were the main users so it will be difficult.

Hi Guys

Just some info on the recovery vehicles question.

The GEMSBOK was never a SANDF recovery vehicle, it was developed for the SAP for use in in the former SWA. It is based on the chassis and mechanicals of the CASPPIR. The SAP had essentially three types of recovery vehicles, the GEMSBOK, the ALBATROSS and the STERK HANS that they deployed during the border conflict, all of them mine resistant.

I do have some pics if you like.

Dave

Hi Dave

Good to see you back in the forums. I'll PM barv and ask him to mail you for the pictures.

Thanks mate

Rudi

All,
Many thanks to all for the contacts.........have pics of Bovington Tank Museum and REME Museum ..(recovery mainly) to get loaded----600 pics
Hope to get them on main site but if not possible(space) will make "discs" (3 in total) for those who may want them......remember "rr" in e-m address
aye
BARV

Whoopee------another "diggy-thing"........many many thanks to Mathew ..Graugrun.....for the terrific pics ......

next project after --dachs..1...2...or before
aye
BARV

No problem Steve,

I'll get some more for you sometime soon!!

Cheers
Graugrun

Hi Steve,

I met Dave (Opsmedic) last week and he also has a great CD with tons of pics... I think he mentioned he was sending you a copy?

Can't wait to see your model... please keep us all updated...

Rudi

Hi,
A good book, if you can find it is "Taming the Landmine" by Peter Stiff. Published by Galago Publishing ( Pty ) Ltd. ISBN 0 947020 04 7

As far as I know the SADF used the Samil 50 Kwêvoel Recovery a lot. The same Kwêvoel was used as tankers, ambulances etc.

If you want to I can scan pic's from the book as I don't know if teh publishers still exsist.

Regards,
Tappie

Hi Tappie,
I know that I'm a grovelling "track-pin"----as far as recovery is concerned ---so "grovel-grovel" any-thing in that line is like "honey to a bee" for me........e-m as much as you can spare(remember "rr")
What would I do with-out you guys.......na...dont answer that
aye
BARV
ps.........pics of visits look like being on Prime Portal...cant get up-load to bigA...will let you know
Steve C

It's the mad "jock" again .........for info (always).....what is the "score" on the RATEL ARV.........did a conversion a while ago-----(very rough)---using pics ...as usual....got any back-ground on it or good shots ....mine came from an old mag page(2pics)dont have full pic to post
aye
BARV

Hi Steve,

The only info I have from OpsMedic's (Dave's) CD is on the Casspir recovery vehicle... I think you have that one already though... I'll keep me eye's peeled!

Rudi

Hi all,

The Gemsbok was a Casspir variant and used as recovery by both the SAP and SADF.

The Samil 50 Kwêvoël Recovery was solely used by the SADF.

Regards,
Tappie

This book is still available... Click this link from Loot: Taming the Landmine

Rudi

Steve & Rudi

IIRC the Ops order for recovery vehicles was:

Samil / Kwêvoël 50
Samil / Kwêvoël 100
Withings -White Stallion (Same chassis & cab as the Bateleur not the Samil 100) – This handled the Rooikat as well, don’t know if this has changed.
Ratel Recovery
Olifant ARV (There used to be a MAN 8X8 as well- phased out now) – Don’t know whether the new Mk1B recovery has been incorporated yet.

From http://samil.armour.co.za/:

Kwêvoël 50 Recovery


Kwêvoël 100 Recovery

Steve / Eric,

I found this site which may be of interest:

SADID

Here's a Kwevoel:



Hope this helps....

Will keep on looking for pics of the Ratel recovery vehicle, it has definitely been mentioned in alot of the military sites... pictures appears somewhat ellusive though...

Rudi

thought you might like to see these.........
...more to come..
aye
BARV
(GOSMG)

Thanks Steve,

I've been following this build as time permits in the scratchbuilders forum... looking great!

Rudi

Rudi..Hi,
INFO.......got e-m from Victor Logistics ..re---Olifant 1A arv----with 2 extra pics.......VEG....MAG?(Piere?)...has asked me to do "piece" on modeling the "beasties"......HELP!!!.....(again) ... any -one out there got any info
Nice beastie ----"Pushy-digggy-thing" :-) :-) :-) :-)
aye
BARV
(GOSMG)
ps..........".Caspir "is on the bench.......might take a look at the Mamba whenI finish this lot :-) :-) ....SAC

Hi Steve,

Are you looking for historical and technical data on the vehicle? I've got issues 2 -3 of VEG (issue 1 is a poster edition). I'll try get the scanner hooked up this weekend and send you the Centurian articles... After speaking to Pierre, I understand that the ARV version of the beastie should feature in approxiamately issue 9... which makes that next year some time. Is he wanting to put your modeling article in the same issue? That would be brilliant!

Coming back to your original question... I guess Pierre would probably be the best person to ask for more info... although I suppose he'll be reluctant to give it up..

Rudi

You got the CDs I send you?

Hi Theunis........yes thanks ------I do apologise-----thought I had sent a THANKS ------------

Rudi.......thanks ----all at sea at the mo----brain is like a bar of "aero"---full of holes-----posted on other site ...re -VEG........
aye
BARV
(GOSMG)

For "Info"........
Got 3 more pics of the Olifant 1 A arv from V Logistics.....(out of space on my pic up-load ..so cant show at moment)....... Has any one seen this "beastie"...in the "flesh".............other "Ollie" is doing not bad...should finish by next week...
aye
BARV
(GOSMG)