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Olifant Mk 1 conversion
Tarok
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Posted: Monday, February 21, 2005 - 08:22 PM UTC
Has anyone used the Red Carpet Models Olifant Mk 1conversion kit? This is the conversion kit for the Tamiya Challenger.

Opinions on this conversion kit?

Tarok
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Posted: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 12:17 AM UTC
A second source I read today said the Olifant is a Centurian derivative. Can anyone confirm which British tank it is a derivative of?
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Posted: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 07:27 AM UTC
Hi Tarok,

It's a derivative of the Centurion


Quoted Text

Centurion (Modern Combat Vehicles: 2) by Simon Dunstan (1980) (ISBN: 0711010633)

In 1953, the South African Army recieved the first of 200 Centurion Mk.3's that were to form a South African Armoured Division as part of a British Commonwealth contingency force for employment in the Middle East. Those Tanks not employed by the South African Army were stored in Durban from where they could be readily shipped to any operational area where British Commonwealth interests were threatened. The 7.92mm Besa Machine Guns were replaced by 0.30in Brownings altering the Centurions to Mark.5's. An additional Browning was fitted to the Commander's Cupola. After the Suez crisis of 1956, there was no further requirement for a south African Armoured Division and the surplus Centurions were sold to Switzerland.

Until 1956, Tank Training was undertaken at three main centres, namely Potchefstroom in the Transvaal, Bloemfontein in the Orange Free State and Oudtshoorn in the Cape Province. Thereafter most Centurion Training has been conducted at Bloemfontein, although Unit and Formation exercises are held throughout the country. A Squadron of Centurions was also stationed at Walvis Bay for some years.

In the early 1970's, 41 Centurions were purchased from Jordan. These practically unservicable vehicles were completely refurbished at 61 Basis Werksplaas (61 Base Workshop) in Verwoerdburg. Other Centurions have been acquired from various sources. All Centurions of the South African Army are undergoing a complete Modernisation Programme including a Diesel Powerpack and numerous improvements, the details of which are classified. The Centurion remains an important item within the Army's Order of Battle and a powerful deterrent to potential enemies of the Republic of South Africa.







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Posted: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 07:06 PM UTC
Thanks Cougar,

So I guess this is the Tamiya kit that gets converted:



Cougar
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Posted: Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 12:16 AM UTC
Hi Tarok,

I'm not sure if Tamiya released different Marks of their Centurion, but if I had to guess, that would be the kit

Contact the guys who make the Olifant Conversion Kit just to be sure

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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 06:01 PM UTC
FYI lads,

I mailed Hennie Bresler at Red Carpet about the Olifant conversion for the Tamiya Centurion Mk 3 (which incidently appears to have dissappointingly discontinued ).

This was his response:
Good day Mr Richardson,

The kit is an add-on to an existing Tamiya Centurion and is no longer produced except on special request which implies that you have to either have a built centurion which you wish to modify or you must purchase the tamiya and build with the modification.

There is no longer a partnership but I can inquire from the model maker if he is able to produce a kit for you and come back to you later.

The silicon moulds we made are exhausted and the turnover doesn’t warrant making others at some considerable cost.

If the moulds are still able to make a conversion kit I’ll let you know.

Regards,



Hennie



It's pretty sad, but I guess it's basically due to lack of demand from the SA market.

Hopefully with the sale of SA military vehicles to the US and the deployment in the Afgan and Iraq we will see a few of these being produced in kit form...

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