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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 06:24 AM UTC
Pigments, Pigments, Pigments

Basic Question, Pigments make an excellent dirty appearance when applied to a model...
I have found two brands of pigments,,
Mig and MMP
Has anyone used them and aside from the price, MMP being $3.50 per 1oz. bottle and Mig is something like $6.00 per 1oz.
Is there any major differences in quality?
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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 07:08 AM UTC
I have only used MMP's and have had no problems with them what so ever ...They can be used wet ,dry ,or even sprayed on...I'm sure Migs are just as good ...I also picked up some basic colors from my art supply store and they work well too..I guess you'll just have to try them and decide for yourself.

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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 07:25 AM UTC

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Pigments, Pigments, Pigments

Basic Question, Pigments make an excellent dirty appearance when applied to a model...
I have found two brands of pigments,,
Mig and MMP
Has anyone used them and aside from the price, MMP being $3.50 per 1oz. bottle and Mig is something like $6.00 per 1oz.
Is there any major differences in quality?



These are actually different products in that Mig pigments are just that, pure pigments. MMP are weathering powders. The diffence being that the latter have an acrylic binding agent that serve to help adherence both wet and dry. Each has their advantages: Mig has a finer particle size, while MMP powders may be a little more versatile out of the jar since you don't necessarily need to add a binder to create certain effects (build up, mainly). Mig sells an acrylic resin to acheive these effects. Both are excellent products. I have a couple jars of the Mig pigments, and most of the line of MMP. Admittedly, I use the MMP more but that may be as much because of my greater stock of colors as anything.

To clarify: When I said MMP don't need a binder, I didn't mean to imply that they can be built up dry. However, alcohol or even water can be used to do this (I recommend alcohol), while Mig requires something like their acrylic resin.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 09:19 AM UTC
Where's a good place to get the MMP powders?

I know where I'd likely get the MIG pigments by mail order, but would like to research the MMP powders a bit more...It seems to me more people are using MIG than the MMP...
I don't know of any place close to Cincinnati I can check out one or the other in person, so it looks as if I'll have to mail order which ever I decide to go with....
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Posted: Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 12:35 AM UTC

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Where's a good place to get the MMP powders?

I know where I'd likely get the MIG pigments by mail order, but would like to research the MMP powders a bit more...It seems to me more people are using MIG than the MMP...
I don't know of any place close to Cincinnati I can check out one or the other in person, so it looks as if I'll have to mail order which ever I decide to go with....



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Posted: Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 01:47 AM UTC
I use Doc O'Brien's Weathering Powders. Model railroaders have been using them for years. I got mine through Micro-Mark. They sell a smaller set with 5-6 colors too.
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Posted: Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 03:04 AM UTC
I USE MIG POWEDERS,
I GET MINE FROM R& J ERNTERPRISE,
FOR 4 DOLLARS A BOTTLE
BUT THE DOC OBREINS,
ARE A REAL BARGEN FOR 17 BUCSK FOR THE WHOLE SET, THAT COMES OUT TO LIKE A 1.50 A BOTTLE. I WILL GET THEN NEXT
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Posted: Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 09:58 AM UTC
Thanks a bunch!
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Posted: Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 10:31 AM UTC
I have a question for you guys who use the MMP or Mig powders. Have you previously used sanded pastels? Are the pigments better? Could somebody explain what difference or how much better they are, please? I have seen Mig pigments, and can get them easily enough, but thought they were basically the same as pastels I sanded down, only more expensive. A lot of guys that I know have changed over to Mig powders, that used pastels previously. Im curious. Thanks a million! Cheers!
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Posted: Friday, July 16, 2004 - 11:53 AM UTC

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I use Doc O'Brien's Weathering Powders. Model railroaders have been using them for years. I got mine through Micro-Mark. They sell a smaller set with 5-6 colors too.



I just ordered the 12 color set of Doc O'Brien's from Micro Mark...only 17.50, so I figured I'll give those a try along with my regular pastels before I invest in the MIG or MMP...
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