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historic bastille day
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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 12:23 AM UTC
some of you might be interested to know that a very significant historical event has just happened,

for the first time, british troops have led the bastille day parade in paris to celebrate 100 years since the entente cordiale, which declared an end to centuries of war and hostililty between britain and france.

the parade was led by the Grenadier guards, household cavalry and royal horse artillery. some of britains oldest and finest military units.

you may call me biased, but for me the british army presents the most spectacular parades of any army in the world. im sure it was great to watch if you were there!

cheers

joe
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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 12:31 AM UTC
That's pretty interesting. Were the three regiments wearing their traditional uniforms, like the polished cuirasses (sp) and helmets on the Household Cavalry?

That crackling sound that was probably heard was Napoleon turning in his grave, to think that forces from the hated "nation of shopkeepers" would head a French parade.

A sure sign though of the 100 years of friendship.

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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 12:52 AM UTC
Hi Joe,
Today is the French National Holiday, it was on July 14th 1789, the people of Paris rose up and decided to march on the Bastille, a state prison that stood for the absolute despotism of the kingdom regime. This was a symbol of the end of the Bourbon's power, a new republic nation was just beginning...

Please look at :
http://www.hightowertrail.com/Bastil.htm

That was a great parade this morning in Paris with the british units !
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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 12:54 AM UTC
rodger,

yes they were wearing full parade dress,

red coats and bearskins for the guards, polished helmets, swords and the like for the cavalry.

cheers

joe
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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 01:25 AM UTC
Yeah ! Royal Guard is very colorful !
I'd ever seen the "Color Trooping" in London, on The Mall at the Queen's Anniversary. Wonderful !

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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 01:32 AM UTC
hi francios,

im aware of the history of the bastille day, it is compulsary to study it in british schools.

i bet it has been a memorable day

joe
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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 01:50 AM UTC
Allons enfants de la patrie
Le jour de gloire est arrive!


Fortunately, you can't here me singing that! :-)
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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 03:11 AM UTC

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red coats and bearskins for the guards, polished helmets, swords and the like for the cavalry



That must have been a pretty site. It's my understanding, and I'm no expert, that the parade ground uniforms of these regiments, at least the Grenadier Guards and Household Cavalry, were inspired by Napoleonic, French, uniforms. I understand the bearskins were to honor the Guards for repelling the French Grenadiers at Waterloo, and the cuirasses were to represent the uniforms of the French cavalry. They might have even used captured cuirasses.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 05:30 AM UTC
it was a beautiful parade !
For once it was under the sun, which was a great change from the bucketfull of rain they got 1 or 2 years ago.
The british units were a very colorful addition ! Several of the units there were present at Waterloo. It's great to see how much things have changed since then !
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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 07:53 AM UTC
I'm surprised the French didn't have the German Army lead the parade since these two countries have become so cozy since OIF began.

Would have reminded many Parisians of 63 years ago when the "Little Corporal's" Army marched through that city in Triumph. As opposed to two years later when British and American Armies marched as liberators.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 08:14 AM UTC

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Would have reminded many Parisians of 63 years ago when the "Little Corporal's" Army marched through that city in Triumph.



I understand your thoughts. But while he might have been "that paper hanging s.o.b., to quote GSP from the movie" hitler wasn't "the little corporal." THAT was Napoleon.

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Posted: Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 06:07 AM UTC

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I'm surprised the French didn't have the German Army lead the parade since these two countries have become so cozy since OIF began.



They did. Last year as a matter of fact. Kinda kills your jab, eh?
In 2002, USMA Cadets led the parade. Hate to break it to ya, not all French hate the US and vice-versa.

Yahoo news has some good photos of the parade, including the Queens Coy, Grenadier Guards, the Lifeguards and Blues and Royals, the Kings Tp, RHA and Red Arrows.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?g=events/wl/071404bastilleday&tmpl=sl&e=1

Vive La France! God Bless The Queen! God Bless America!
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2004 - 12:52 AM UTC

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Hi Joe,
Today is the French National Holiday, it was on July 14th 1789, the people of Paris rose up and decided to march on the Bastille, a state prison that stood for the absolute despotism of the kingdom regime. This was a symbol of the end of the Bourbon's power, a new republic nation was just beginning...

Please look at :
http://www.hightowertrail.com/Bastil.htm

That was a great parade this morning in Paris with the british units !



I agree. "Liberte, Egalite, Fraternitie" These words resounded all over the world and one way or the other, sparked nationalist sentiments in distant lands which were then colonies.

Some of our patriots studied in Europe and were greatly influenced by tghe ideals of the revolution which inspired them to pursue a similar venture back in the mother land.
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2004 - 12:56 AM UTC
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I'm surprised the French didn't have the German Army lead the parade since these two countries have become so cozy since OIF began.


They did. Last year as a matter of fact. Kinda kills your jab, eh?
In 2002, USMA Cadets led the parade. Hate to break it to ya, not all French hate the US and vice-versa.



At least it's a relief to know the French do not dread the sight of Germans marching down Champs Elysee once more.

Please enlighten me, is it sort of a tradition that the French would invite its allies to take part in Bastille Day celebrations like this in a military parade?
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2004 - 01:31 AM UTC
I believe that the French would invite their allies. We marched in the parade several times in the past. Nice celebration.
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2004 - 02:41 PM UTC
Yes, each year, an allied country opens the march !
US, german, spanish, british troops have all done it ! I must say I'm very glad of it !
They open the march because they shouldn't walk behind the french commanding officer , who's not their commanding officer ! Also, it's a place of honnor !

Quite a few people who faught the german are still alive. For some of them it was a bit hard to accept seeing german troops again... but now nearly all people have accepted the fact that today's germany has nothing to do with what it was during WWII, and that it has to be a trusted ally.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 03:52 AM UTC

I love a parade..its good to see allies.

I actually saw one of the keys, or THE key to the prison when I was at George Washington's plantation in Virginia--naturally it was a gift from the French people

Hmmm I wonder why Congress didn't rename that the "freedom key" or rename the Statue of Liberty the "statue of freedom"

Vive La France and three cheers for Britain!!!!

Sean