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Mech-Maniac
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Virginia, United States
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Posted: Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 11:49 AM UTC
how do you make rust, i've tried, but i never get that look right!!!!! help
shonen_red
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Posted: Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 11:59 AM UTC
Some users use real rust. Just scrape if off from rusted metals! As for me, I use pastels.
FAUST
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Posted: Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 12:01 PM UTC
Ola Mech-maniac

For me the answer to rust is MIG pigments. They absolutely work like a dream and there are a thousand ways to apply them with all their own effects.
The best results I have retrieved by brushing several brown and rusty colored MIG pigments onto wet paint.

Quite fresh rust on the muffler of my Jeep with only 2 rustcolors from the MIG range onto Brown (wet) paint:


And about 2 shades of brown 2 shades of rust and Black Pigments to show this 55 year old rust and also brushed on Brown (wet) Paint on this PAK35 for my incoming project:


I have no stocks or shares in the MIG pigments but in my opinion it are the best things that ever struck the market.
More information about pigments:
http://www.migproductions.com/pseries.htm
and there was a Feature or review about it but sadly I can`t find the damn thing. I hope somebody will come up with that one.
For me Pigments are the thing.

PLMP110
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Posted: Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 05:05 PM UTC
I use Rustall. I've always had good results with this system.

Patrick
Major_Goose
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Posted: Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 05:23 PM UTC
Real rust very thin particled is one thing, baking soda for testure and pastels are the next and Modern Options Instant Rust is more sophisticated one. Faust's work with MIG's pigments also show the way with these fine products
Silantra
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Posted: Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 06:27 PM UTC
hi all..
since all of the modern rust system are unavailable in malaysia, i use real rust.
just put some steelwool inside a jar...pour water and 2,3 drop of vinegar..wait for 3-4 days..then walla...a solution of rust..
just brush it to the rusted area..leave it to dry
at first (when wet) the rust color wouldnt be noticed...once they dry, u'll see the result.
Just dont overdo it.
here's some example...



Ranger74
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Posted: Monday, June 07, 2004 - 07:17 AM UTC
I currently use pastels. But I just have a comment reference rust on military vehicles : (1) New rust is generally bright orange. The day after my tanks and PCs came off the wash rack the tracks would have a light orange patina. (2) Old rust turns a brown color, old rust being only a couple days old!!!! (3) Cross country movement rapidly removes all rust from tracks!!! SO!, my recommendation concerning rust on suspensions and tracks is dependent on what setting you place the vehicle. If it is moving cross-country - little to no rust on track, road wheels, etc. I dead, or derilict, then old rust is probably the right call. New rust should be rare.

As far as exhausts, I can't say, but if rusted, old rust would be appropriate.

Just my theories based on practical experience.

Jeff
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Wojewodztwo Zachodniopomorskie, Poland
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Posted: Monday, June 07, 2004 - 10:07 AM UTC
Try dry pastel Burnt Umber.
tazz
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Posted: Monday, June 07, 2004 - 11:25 AM UTC
i use bakeing soda.
with testors rust color paint,
i put a litte bakeing soda and mix it with the paint it comes out nice
SgtDinkyduck
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Posted: Monday, June 07, 2004 - 04:47 PM UTC
i too use real rust, i just take a wool pad, place it in some water, and leave it out on my deck for 3-days. and then i follow it up with mixing a little black pastel, and some dark brown. then i use a soft bruh, and some water, i spray some Model masters rust on the part, then dip my brush in water and then the rust mixture and paint it on. when it dries it looks good, especialy when you get some good chunks on it
DRAGONWAGON
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Posted: Monday, June 07, 2004 - 05:37 PM UTC
Like Major_Goose already said....Instant Rust works like a dream for me!!
Simply brush it on, then, after twelve hrs. of drying time, apply the oxydation solution, and PRESTO....the plastic is starting to rust....Awesome!

All the best, John.
KFMagee
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Posted: Monday, June 07, 2004 - 05:56 PM UTC

I mix acryllic paint (burnt umber and a bit of terra cotta) and then drop in some baking soda... mix well, then dab on / wipe off as desired. After it sets up, I come back and do a wash with thinned ink. Cheap, easy, and looks great!
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