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Ever have a Frustrating Kit?
ShermiesRule

Member Since: December 11, 2003
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Posted: Saturday, June 05, 2004 - 03:34 PM UTC
I still hve a lot of problems with resin kits. I never seem to be able to clean up those connecting pieces to the trees. I can't seen anything and it feels smooth but someow when filing i'll sand off just a little too much or something and the pieces won't be flush or leaves gaps.
Paul

Member Since: August 21, 2003
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Posted: Saturday, June 05, 2004 - 04:13 PM UTC
Most frustrating kit for me was Shanghai-Dragon's MAZ TEL with the Scud B, the kit's suspension is unbuildable, none of the parts have good positioning points so you have to guess how high or low the vehicle should be. My model came out with the right side about 1mm lower than the left. Each launching rail for the rocket is made of 2 pieces that when put together leave a huge gap on the top and bottom - talk about a lot of filling. The instructions are vague in some parts like the side cabs, the parts don't have locating pins which makes it even harder to understand. I've got the model on hold and really don't want to return to it...
The second most frustrating kit was ICM BM-21 Grad(in my gallery). Most of the frustration came from me just getting into the hobby. The parts don't correspond with their numbers and there is uneven amount of parts for the suspension assembly. The model looks very realistic in the end but at what price!
The third kit would be Eastern Express GAZ-66 Command Post. Since I am scratching most of the parts, it doesn't really matter but: the instructions are so bad that there is no way to assemble the kit without extensive reference; all the engine parts have no detail what so ever, don't correspond to the numbers in the instructions; if the command post is build by instructions, it will be about 5mm taller than the cab - completly wrong; the cab floor - also completly wrong.
On a scale of 10, it would get a 2 or a 3.
Keep on modeling
The second most frustrating kit was ICM BM-21 Grad(in my gallery). Most of the frustration came from me just getting into the hobby. The parts don't correspond with their numbers and there is uneven amount of parts for the suspension assembly. The model looks very realistic in the end but at what price!
The third kit would be Eastern Express GAZ-66 Command Post. Since I am scratching most of the parts, it doesn't really matter but: the instructions are so bad that there is no way to assemble the kit without extensive reference; all the engine parts have no detail what so ever, don't correspond to the numbers in the instructions; if the command post is build by instructions, it will be about 5mm taller than the cab - completly wrong; the cab floor - also completly wrong.
On a scale of 10, it would get a 2 or a 3.
Keep on modeling
Tiger101

Member Since: March 02, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, June 05, 2004 - 04:44 PM UTC
My Most fustrating model would have to be TOGAs ASU-57 the flash and the poor mold alignment had me put the kit back on the shelf to be tried again.
Hellers LeClerc was another Nightmare! I had to shelve this one too, the gaps in the turret just drove me over the edge! I may try it again if I have nothing to do for a few months. (not likely)
I have ressurected one kit off that pile though. Italeris Leopard 2 A3 and if I may say so it came out quite well.
Hmmmmm where is that LeClerc! Maybe I can make a silk purse out of that sows ear.
Hellers LeClerc was another Nightmare! I had to shelve this one too, the gaps in the turret just drove me over the edge! I may try it again if I have nothing to do for a few months. (not likely)
I have ressurected one kit off that pile though. Italeris Leopard 2 A3 and if I may say so it came out quite well.
Hmmmmm where is that LeClerc! Maybe I can make a silk purse out of that sows ear.
MEBM

Member Since: July 19, 2003
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Posted: Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 12:49 PM UTC
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I'll sell you some old Tamiya, cheap. You tell me how easy they are to build. he he he ...
Hmm......really.....well, how about this: I'll give you one good kit for all those horrible Tamiya kits. Yes, I think it's a good trade, don't you? Thanks for your time.

USArmy2534

Member Since: January 28, 2004
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Posted: Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 02:57 PM UTC
A model that hasn't been frustrating? Are you kidding me? Is there a modeller out there that hasn't had a bad/frustrating kit
. Look at it this way. 1: yes it sucks, but the best kits that you do and the worst kits that you make the mistake of buying average out into the knowledge that you gain. 2: adds patience, gives your scratchbuilding skills a go, and makes you an expert in putty smoothing. 3: keeps the world economy going when you buy aftermarket parts to correct your...er...the model makers screwups
. The bad kits make the good kits all that much better. Just looking on the bright side.
. Look at it this way. 1: yes it sucks, but the best kits that you do and the worst kits that you make the mistake of buying average out into the knowledge that you gain. 2: adds patience, gives your scratchbuilding skills a go, and makes you an expert in putty smoothing. 3: keeps the world economy going when you buy aftermarket parts to correct your...er...the model makers screwups
. The bad kits make the good kits all that much better. Just looking on the bright side.USArmy2534

Member Since: January 28, 2004
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Posted: Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 02:59 PM UTC
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Most general kits I buy are OK, some offer a few fitting problems. I get frustrated with the after-market stuff. I know in advance that it'll need trimming and shapping, my deal is Superglue. Stuff either comes out too much dries to quickly (before I can get the piece perfectly set) or for some strange reason to slow which then causes me to stick my fingers to part or each other. Think I'm going to have to go out and buy some debonder.
And I thought I was the only one out there with this problem. the debonder works wonders...especially when you grow that third arm to apply it
oh well thats what family members are for and hey you get two arms as well
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