hey guys! washing help nnman!

i did the washing on bradley... and somehow.. hindi mganda and result. i used clear enamel for my coat. and flat black+flat brown(tamiya acrylic) for my wash.

how do you do it correctly? just dip the brush on the paint and let the paint flow around the details? how bout too much wash? how do you remove it?

and also how do you correctly prepare a wash? using enamels or acrylics? shonen told me that he uses enamels for wash( tama nga ba?)



in dire need of help!

Jeremy,

What happened? Did the wash dissolve the paint?

Ideally, you should use an acrylic or lacquer-based paint on the kit. The reason is that when washing with enamels of oils, the thinner will not react with the base paint.

I use oil paints (usually a combination of burnt umber and prussian blue) as my wash. I then thin it with ordinary paint (enamel) thinner. My base paint would either be acrylics or lacquer so no matter how much wash I apply the paint remains intact. There are some who mix the oils with spirits but I havent tried this technique. Im not sure if the spirits will react with enamel paints.

Hope this helps.

thanks buck!

my base paint didnt dissolve. actually it was not damaged by my wash. my problem is once i do the wash.. some of the excess dries up to quicly and becomes very hard to remove!(messed i used ordinary bath tisue for it.haha :-)

i use enamels as my base paint on my models. and acrylics :-)

by d way where do you buy those oils? burnt umber?

Masama yung consistency ng paint ratio mo. Dapat mas marami ang thinner kaysa paint. Usually, ako ginagamit ko yung Gunze mixing tray, fill it in with thinner then dab my brush #0 to the black paint tapos isawsaw ko doon sa prepared thinner.

I'll post pics of how the mixing tray looks like tom.

ok hmmm.. by d way, what wash do you use? what brand? what type? anything! hehe :-)
what thinner? :-)

hey jeremy,
Yup Buck is right.. I also use oil paints- Burnt Umber for washes. I get my Paint thinners in Hardware stores. You can actually mix them together in a clear "film" cannister for future use. Just make sure you have the right consistency for a better paint flow.
Daler-Rowney oil paints might be available in National Bookstore, medyo mahal but one tube will last for years..

Just like BUCK, i recommend using oil paint as your wash. Even better would be acrylic (out of the tube, not watercolor). But the best would be try experimenting on your wash using cheaper kits so that when you mess it up you don't feel too disappointed.


I was never succesful using enamels as a wash.

Jeremy47: I also recommend using oil for washes. If you are looking for a less costly oil paint then go to NBS, there are several choices....as for the thinner I use Talens odorless mineral spirits...you can also use linseed oil but be careful coz it burns the skin is exposed for a long period of time....hope this helps

Nah! lintel oil takes too much time to dry man. I mean it's great especially for painting faces where I do "wet on wet" shading. But I have to let it stand for like 3 days. The best is go for the mineral spirits.

I also use Tamiya Smoke for my washes. Just got to be careful though. Dilute it first.

the safest wash invented is the water base ink like rotring inks. i was using it before and still using it now. it won't ruin you pain job, no need for top coats, if you don't like it, you can erase it with soapy water. just add few drops of rotring ink on a small cup of water and WALA!!! instant wash!

you dont need your wash to be very dark or adding to much ink on it, the secret is simply adding more wash on top of you previous wash. remember, too much is bad for you health and your models.

remember, start slowly. you can add a drop of liquid soap to lesen the surface tension and the wash will slide smoothly on panel lines. i havent use this techniq in armour but it will be the same principles. have fun.

any problem, call 911. ok. cheers matee. :-)

riversphynxz: Hmmmmm....I have not tried using techpen ink....I'll also give it a try....thanks for the input

I use oil paints (yung murang klase sa NBS) thinned with regular thinners (yung murang klase sa hardware). I guess some of the important things about washes is the consistency. Yung itsura dapat is parang thinner na nalagyan ng paint, not the other way around. yung pangalawa, as mentioned earlier is apply small amounts, because a little goes a long way. from my experience is mas madaling magdagdag kaysa magbawas; ie, mahirap magtanggal ng wash pag nasobrahan. also, when adding wash, the hardest thing about it is knowing when to stop adding more wash. sa book ni shep paine, indicator mo is pag feeling mo kailangan pa ng konting wash, you should stop adding. malamang, pwede nna daw yun.

warthog, just make sure its a water base ink before you start to prevent sudden heart attack !&:)

Good you mentioned it...thanks.....

try powdered charcoal ofr soothe like end pipe of a tank or the vertical fin of a tornado. works nicely