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Oh Helen where art thou?!?
GIBeregovoy
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Posted: Friday, May 14, 2004 - 06:42 PM UTC
Just watched "Troy". First thing that struck me was just how damn beautiful and sexy the actress (I think it's Diane Kruger - not sure) who played Helen. Her alone is enough for me to watch it hehehehehe (which was really the reason why I watched it hehehehehe). For perverts, well there's this... don't want to spoil the fun now, hehehehe

Anyway, the movie was on the whole quite good - but not excellent. The musical scoring - by James Horner, who is quite good, particularly with his work in "Apollo 13" IIRC - was at times inappropriate at best, "Disneyesque" at worst. In other words, it's not enough for me to get out and buy the soundtrack - unlike LOTR.

Helen was damn sexy. Makes me want to check Robb's gallery hehehehe

The battles were impressive to say the least. But somehow it lacked the oomph factor IMO which we, of the SPR, BoB, and Gladiator generation ilk, have come to expect in many war movies nowadays. The gore of the battles were not even close to Gladiator's opening scenes, and a light year far from Braveheart.

Helen was damn sexy. Makes me want to check Robb's gallery hehehehe

The city was impressive as well. Looked much like a Bronze Age settlement. The Trojan Horse was also very realistic - one must not expect a larger, more finely built horse because it was built in the field and made out of a Greek trireme - or was it bireme?

Helen was damn sexy. Makes me want to check Robb's gallery hehehehe

They did a good job adapting The Illiad. Glad that they didn't include gods and goddesses - it would've ruined the film IMO. I particularly like the way they also grafted a part of the Aenid in the movie (SPOILER: Whilst some Trojans are evacuating courtesy of Hector's wifey, Paris gives the Sword of Troy to a guy named Aeneas. In Roman Mythology, Aeneas is the hero of the Aenid, and is considered as the prime ancestor of Romans - they had a "cultural" and "inferiority" complex with the Greeks, hence the reason for the Aenid which gave them "royal blood").

Helen was damn sexy. Makes me want to check Robb's gallery hehehehe

The battle between Hector and Achilles was great as well. One of the best sword duels I've seen. However, it sure does look funny seeing Achilles do his jump-and-thrust technique. I wonder - does it have any tactical advantage at all? I'll leave that to the experts.

Helen was damn sexy. Makes me want to check Robb's gallery hehehehe

The movie was not swallowed up with special effects. Ok, so there's the 1000 ships, and Troy itself, but what I mean is that the movie was stolen by computer wizadry, that sort of thing. Had they included gods and goddesses, then the movie would be corny - much like the Hallmark Channel's "Jason and the Argonauts".

Helen was damn sexy. Makes me want to check Robb's gallery hehehehe

I don't particularly remember where in The Illiad that Achilles had a fling in Troy. All I know was that he sure did have an attitude problem. The ending is also Hollywoodish, a bit of weak IMO. Plus, it seems that the film had a subtle anti-war message aimed at the current WoT. Gloss over that if you don't want to spoil the film.

Helen was damn sexy. Makes me want to check Robb's gallery hehehehe

Over all, the film was good - not excellent - but good. Worth the time to watch it on the big screen, and good enough for me to get the DVD - I do hope they have some nice, "steamy" scenes of Helen hehehehe SHE'S SUCH A TEASE!

Did I say Helen was damn sexy?
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Posted: Friday, May 14, 2004 - 08:15 PM UTC
When you say "Helen was damn sexy", I think the producers did want thateffect to happen. She is after all "the face that launched a thousand ships". I havn't watched it yet. I've read it though. It'll arrive in Saudi in about a year or so after sensoring half of the film.


Bireme: It was a sort of firgate normally used to ram into another ship bow first then a small bridge with fangs/forks was released from a pivot to hold the other ship and enable "marines" to board then a classic sword/spear fight ensued. I'm not so sure if the Greeks used this to much effect but I'm sure the Romans did. They used it so much in fact Andrea Miniatures (Spanish company) have issued a Bireme kit complete with some 14 or so figures. It's a resin and white metal mix. It's so huge it costs Eu. 1500.

The truth about the Trojan war is that it was a trade war. But if a woman could cause two states to go to war well then this woman has got to be really worth it.

Would you go to war for such a "damn sexy woman"?




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Posted: Friday, May 14, 2004 - 09:21 PM UTC

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Helen was damn sexy



This motivates me to watch the film.
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Posted: Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 04:58 AM UTC
wow if she's that damn sexy then i'll definitely watch it despite some bad comments from some of my frends!!! :-) :-)
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Posted: Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 05:13 AM UTC
I agree with GI's comments in the sense that the film is good, not excellent. Helen was really pretty(a German actress) and her scarcity of lines in the film attests to that. The critic at CNN also had the same comments(you should be a film critic GI) and was sort of worried that the film may not recoup their expenses(a whopping $200M!) immediately since Shrek 2 and The Day After Tomorrow will be opening soon. The rendition of the horse was perfect, unlike the old renditions where they even sculpted the mane and tail, along with a perfect mouth and teeth!

Some trivia - the film was originally shot in Morocco but had to move to Mexico after the war broke out and that cost them. Brad Pitt injured his heel - of all things - so shooting had to be delayed for weeks. And the dragging of the body(don't want to give it away) bit close to a lot of people's bones in the US. Art imitating life.
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Posted: Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 12:50 PM UTC
Well, she was the "face that launched a thousand ships" as the lore goes. But now, Diane Kruger has the face that launched a thousand (make that millions) moviegoers to watch the movie.

:-)
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Posted: Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 03:17 PM UTC

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The truth about the Trojan war is that it was a trade war. But if a woman could cause two states to go to war well then this woman has got to be really worth it.



Yup. Control of the Aegean - and hence, the Mediterranean - trade routes.


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Would you go to war for such a "damn sexy woman"?



THE HELL I WILL! Hehehehehe!
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Posted: Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 05:15 AM UTC
Bull: The day after tomorrow will be showing??? when??! my mom wants to watch it she says it looks good from the trailer though....but it seems it doesnt have that much publicity compared to other movies


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Brad Pitt injured his heel - of all things - so shooting had to be delayed for weeks



he is playing the role of achilles right? hehehe of all things why the heel hhehee it only shows the role of achilles really fits him well....
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Posted: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 03:45 PM UTC
BTW, for the more musically inclined, the soundtrack at Troy wasn't the original. Apparently, the original was by Gabriel Yared, not James Horner (the latter made it into the film). Here's the article about it: http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/18/troy.score/index.html

I must say, I agree with the article. Did I say "inappropriate at best, Disneyesque at worst"? Horner's scoring SUCKED! Here's the site of Gabriel Yared which (under the link "News") has the excerpts for his composition of the scoring for Troy: http://www.gabrielyared.com/flashsite/index2.htm

I sampled "The Approach of the Greeks" and by goodness, that alone will be enough for me to buy the soundtrack - had it been implemented.

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