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PAF S-70A-5
cbrain21
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Posted: Monday, April 12, 2004 - 07:46 PM UTC
I also would want to take a shot at BAC's PAF build and am planning to convert a SH-60 Seahawk into one of our country's two S-70A-5 Blackhawks. I've been surfing the net for any reference pictures but all I found are two small low resolution and low quality pictures of these crafts. Does any of the people here know where I can get better pictures for either of these two crafts? I believe one is being used as a presidential helicopter while the other is a rescue vehicle.
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Jeepney
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Posted: Monday, April 12, 2004 - 08:16 PM UTC
Doc Hermie aka Guarnere has a boxful of references about the presidential chopper. It's actually one of his still unfinished projects. The detail he put into it is unbelievable. It looks like all it needs is a tank of gas and away it goes. You might be able to persuade him to bring it to one of the meetings. Make sure you bring a camera. And don't drool 
Fritz
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Posted: Monday, April 12, 2004 - 09:18 PM UTC
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Doc Hermie aka Guarnere has a boxful of references about the presidential chopper. It's actually one of his still unfinished projects. The detail he put into it is unbelievable. It looks like all it needs is a tank of gas and away it goes. You might be able to persuade him to bring it to one of the meetings. Make sure you bring a camera. And don't drool
Ooooohhhhhhh.......
You mean this project of his?
It's probably one of the most nerve-wracking nerve-wracker a nerve-wracker can nerve-wrack about.
To do this he first got hold of about 1 inch thick worth of pictures taken from the chopper from inside out. :-) :-) :-)
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I believe one is being used as a presidential helicopter while the other is a rescue vehicle.
Nope! that's one being used as a presidential helicopter while the other as a spare parts source
cbrain21
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Posted: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 11:20 AM UTC
Wow! Man, that sure is nerve wrackin'..... hmn.... seems like i'll just model the "other" chopped-up chopper.....
Fritz
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Posted: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 03:02 PM UTC
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Wow! Man, that sure is nerve wrackin'..... hmn.... seems like i'll just model the "other" chopped-up chopper.....
Technically, that would be more difficult since now you're obliged to model that chopper with internal parts exposed!
Anyway, don't be discouraged! Doc Hermie's got 20+ years worth of modelling experience. He has been in the hobby a very long time. You on the other hand has
how many years alredy? In time you'll gain enough experience to model something of the same or more amount of detail.
CSMeekai
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Posted: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 05:13 PM UTC
go start wreckin' yer nerve-wreckin'-nerve-wrecked kit! doing that already-wrecked chop-chop won't do anyone good... or you could do the kit as though it has been chop-chopped as well! hehehe
but kidding aside, there are no obligations as to which one you'd model. the thing that matters is that you gave it a shot!
but kidding aside, there are no obligations as to which one you'd model. the thing that matters is that you gave it a shot!
buck
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 02:31 AM UTC
CBrain,
There were in fact two S-70s bought by the PAF. One crashed in Mindoro in 1992. Im not sure what scheme it carried or what role, but I believe it also carried the Presidential livery.
The surviving S-70 is the one being built by Hermie. It has a white upper fuselage with graduating hues of blue all the way to the bottom.
If I may say, try building your S-70 in time for this year's BACup. Hermie's S-70 wont be finished in about 1 more year, I reckon. He told me so himself.
Meekai's right. The thing is that you give it a shot. And, more importantly, that you enjoy while doing so. Ive been wanting to build a 72nd scale kit of that myself, and honestly was a little intimidated by Hermie's S-70. But now Ive decided to build one for myself regardless. But not this year, though.
There were in fact two S-70s bought by the PAF. One crashed in Mindoro in 1992. Im not sure what scheme it carried or what role, but I believe it also carried the Presidential livery.
The surviving S-70 is the one being built by Hermie. It has a white upper fuselage with graduating hues of blue all the way to the bottom.
If I may say, try building your S-70 in time for this year's BACup. Hermie's S-70 wont be finished in about 1 more year, I reckon.
He told me so himself.Meekai's right. The thing is that you give it a shot. And, more importantly, that you enjoy while doing so. Ive been wanting to build a 72nd scale kit of that myself, and honestly was a little intimidated by Hermie's S-70. But now Ive decided to build one for myself regardless. But not this year, though.
blitz
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Posted: Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 02:03 AM UTC
Galeng talaga ni "Doc" Hermie.. It goes to show na galeng nang mga pinoy modeller.
cbrain21
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Posted: Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 04:11 AM UTC
Well, I have decided to do away with the PAF S-70A-5 project for the moment. As I reviewed my kit I realized that converting a Sea Hawk to a Blackhawk won't be a very easy task and that I might do more harm than good. I tried to shop around for a reasonably priced 1/72 UH-60 Blackhawk kit but to no avail. I only found a rather pricey Fujimi kit which didn't catch my fancy. I heard there's an Academy kit at a larger scale so I may start hunting for that.
Anyway, since the 1/72 Tamiya SH-60 Sea Hawk is already in my grubby hands, I might as well build this kit.... it came with 3 different sets of decals (2 for the US Navy and 1 for the Japanese SH-60J. I didn't like the dull US Navy low-viz version so I will just do the Jap version.
Anyway, since the 1/72 Tamiya SH-60 Sea Hawk is already in my grubby hands, I might as well build this kit.... it came with 3 different sets of decals (2 for the US Navy and 1 for the Japanese SH-60J. I didn't like the dull US Navy low-viz version so I will just do the Jap version.
Fritz
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Posted: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 02:27 PM UTC
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Well, I have decided to do away with the PAF S-70A-5 project for the moment. As I reviewed my kit I realized that converting a Sea Hawk to a Blackhawk won't be a very easy task and that I might do more harm than good. I tried to shop around for a reasonably priced 1/72 UH-60 Blackhawk kit but to no avail. I only found a rather pricey Fujimi kit which didn't catch my fancy. I heard there's an Academy kit at a larger scale so I may start hunting for that.
Anyway, since the 1/72 Tamiya SH-60 Sea Hawk is already in my grubby hands, I might as well build this kit.... it came with 3 different sets of decals (2 for the US Navy and 1 for the Japanese SH-60J. I didn't like the dull US Navy low-viz version so I will just do the Jap version.
Heh!
That's the spirit! When can we expect that model of yours???? Good luck. :-) :-) cbrain21
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Posted: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 11:26 AM UTC
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Heh!
Not very soon, unless i find a solution to this problem:
Mukhang kinapos sa plastic ang Tamiya when they manufactured this canopy / windshield
Another shot:
With the Tamiya logo box art this time.
One more for the last time:
What a bummer.
Looks like I have to learn how to vacuform.... not! Ewww...
Jeepney
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Posted: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 11:58 AM UTC
You could ask the store you bought it from for a replacement. Ask some of the guys on yahoogroups. Someone might have a spare.
cbrain21
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Posted: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 02:04 PM UTC
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You could ask the store you bought it from for a replacement. Ask some of the guys on yahoogroups. Someone might have a spare.
Will Lil's Parksquare replace that? Oh yeah.... I've already lost the receipt and I purchased this kit around 2-3 months ago.... I don't think they would remember me purchasing it from them.
Is there any soul out there willing to spare me their blackhawk/seahawk canopies? Scale is 1/72. Jeepney
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Posted: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 02:19 PM UTC
No harm in trying. You can always ask them to leaf through the sales receipts
buck
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Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 01:18 AM UTC
Cbrain,
Several months ago we chanced by this 1/72 Hasegawa HH-60D rip off kit in Uniwide. They sold it at P29.95! and then at P19.95!! Yes, I cant believe it myself. I bought quite a number of them but Im not sure if it will fit Tamiya/Italeri (I assume your kit is in 1/72?). Why dont I give you a sample windscreen and check it out for yourself? I can meet you in Makati Monday if youre free.
Several months ago we chanced by this 1/72 Hasegawa HH-60D rip off kit in Uniwide. They sold it at P29.95! and then at P19.95!! Yes, I cant believe it myself. I bought quite a number of them but Im not sure if it will fit Tamiya/Italeri (I assume your kit is in 1/72?). Why dont I give you a sample windscreen and check it out for yourself? I can meet you in Makati Monday if youre free.
cbrain21
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Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 02:33 AM UTC
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Cbrain,
Several months ago we chanced by this 1/72 Hasegawa HH-60D rip off kit in Uniwide. They sold it at P29.95! and then at P19.95!! Yes, I cant believe it myself. I bought quite a number of them but Im not sure if it will fit Tamiya/Italeri (I assume your kit is in 1/72?). Why dont I give you a sample windscreen and check it out for yourself? I can meet you in Makati Monday if youre free.
What?! What branch of Uniwide is that?
Hmn.... since you mentioned that you bought quite a number of them kits, I presume that naubos mo na yung stock nila nyan? Hmn... would you be willing to sell me one of the kits? Maski tubuan mo pa ng pamasahe mo... ehehehe.
Monday? Pwede rin but I can only meet you after office hours. 4pm labas ko ng office from Alabang and I can get there siguro in approximately an hour or so (hopefully walang traffic). Tamang-tama baka makadaan na rin ako sa hobbyshop ng MCS. Where in Makati can I meet you?
buck
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Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 03:00 AM UTC
CBrain,
Lattex and I will also be meeting next week. Hobbies and Comics sounds good. Lets say 6ish? Ill just give you a copy, no problem.
Oh and btw, Uniwide ran out of stocks a few weeks after they came out with that. And its not all me, man! Hehehe!
Lattex and I will also be meeting next week. Hobbies and Comics sounds good. Lets say 6ish? Ill just give you a copy, no problem.
Oh and btw, Uniwide ran out of stocks a few weeks after they came out with that. And its not all me, man! Hehehe!
cbrain21
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Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 02:44 PM UTC
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CBrain,
Lattex and I will also be meeting next week. Hobbies and Comics sounds good. Lets say 6ish? Ill just give you a copy, no problem.
Great! Sige, sama na rin ako sa meet niyo. Thanks.
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Oh and btw, Uniwide ran out of stocks a few weeks after they came out with that. And its not all me, man! Hehehe!
Hmn... talaga lang ha? So, who's the other culprit who got the rest of the kits?
Do you have any idea if Uniwide intends to re-stock their supply of these kits? When?
shrikes
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Posted: Friday, April 23, 2004 - 06:30 PM UTC
I'm a bit late in this tread, but i'd like to say that the details on Doc Hermie's Chopper are just INSANE! It's just not right for someone to be that good and still make a living! If that were me, i suppose i'd have to quit working and quit sleeping! LOL!
buck
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Posted: Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 01:01 AM UTC
Shrikes,
Welcome aboard!
Details on Doc Hermie's S-70 insane? Its not insane, its OBSCENE!!! People like us should not have been shown something like that. Its too depressing. LOL
Btw, I heard that some aeronautics students are asking Hermie for some directions on how to put together an S-70 engine. :-)
Welcome aboard!
Details on Doc Hermie's S-70 insane? Its not insane, its OBSCENE!!! People like us should not have been shown something like that. Its too depressing. LOL
Btw, I heard that some aeronautics students are asking Hermie for some directions on how to put together an S-70 engine. :-)
mangernie2
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Posted: Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 08:27 AM UTC
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Shrikes,
Welcome aboard!
Details on Doc Hermie's S-70 insane? Its not insane, its OBSCENE!!! People like us should not have been shown something like that. Its too depressing. LOL
Btw, I heard that some aeronautics students are asking Hermie for some directions on how to put together an S-70 engine. :-)
Buck,
If someone tries that in braille now that's insane!
mang ernie
buck
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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 01:45 AM UTC
Junior,
Dont tease me. Hehehe! You up to the challenge?
Dont tease me. Hehehe! You up to the challenge?
cbrain21
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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 04:17 AM UTC
Buck,
I just would like to confirm kung tuloy ang meet later (04/26/04) 6pm sa MCS.... CSMeekai might be tagging along daw according to her.
I just would like to confirm kung tuloy ang meet later (04/26/04) 6pm sa MCS.... CSMeekai might be tagging along daw according to her.
CSMeekai
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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 12:00 PM UTC
Ei, SHRIKES! welcome aboard!
ladies, i will be tagging along if work doesn't get in the way...
Anyway, see you when i see you! hehehehe...
ladies, i will be tagging along if work doesn't get in the way...
Anyway, see you when i see you! hehehehe...
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