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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 02:33 AM UTC
Hi,
I need to make this MG mount for my M-107,any ideas how to?
should i try and make four pieces and glue them or i better try to work from solid piece
Thanks
Eran
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 03:10 AM UTC
It looks like you will need about 16 to 20 pieces to make this mount.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 03:15 AM UTC
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It looks like you will need about 16 to 20 pieces to make this mount.
I ment the basic shape of the pole
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 03:29 AM UTC
Howdy ekaufman,
If I was to do it, I would cut the basic shape of the pole out of Basswood. Add your 'pieces / parts' from stock Evergreen, and Voila!
At that point use your Master, or better, use the master to make a mould.
hth
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 04:39 AM UTC
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Howdy ekaufman,
If I was to do it, I would cut the basic shape of the pole out of Basswood. Add your 'pieces / parts' from stock Evergreen, and Voilą!
At that point use your Master, or better, use the master to make a mold.
hth
Tread.
You would need the four pieces to make the tapered shape. Evergreen flat stock will work. Cut the first piece and use it as a template to make the other three pieces.
Treads idea of making the piece out of basswood is a very good option. The wood is light and easy to carve and sand.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 05:12 AM UTC
I'd go with one piece to start as an internal core piece then if you need weld seams you can add plastruct over the top (cut to shape)
You can also make a basswood mold then heat some evergreen in hot water (be careful all, hot water burns

) then wrap the plastic around the mold. Let cool and trim to shape.
Then add all the bits and pieces
A third way is to use milliput. As it's hardening you can jab in some texture with a stiff brush.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 12:43 PM UTC
Howdy Eran,
You'll have to understand my penchant for opting to use Basswood (at my core I am a Carpenter). It's 'friendly' for me, and I have an affinity for making it 'work'!
I must say that using a set of caliper's I could extrapolate the dimensions given two constants.
What are the (1/35th scale) dimension? (Height / Width top & bottom)......wait a minute.....that's
three dimensions!........O.K., I lied!

#:-)
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 12:34 AM UTC
I could use balsa and cover it with thin plasticard,my main problem is how to create the corect taper from all four sides
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 05:09 AM UTC
Eran,
do you have the dimensions? it looks like a pyramid. i could whip up a template if i had some actual sizes.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 08:00 AM UTC
Matt,
the dimensions are:
height - 86cm
bottom width - 20 cm
top width- 8 cm
Thanks for your help
matt
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 08:10 AM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 08:18 AM UTC
thanks man
gee that was super fast
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 09:18 AM UTC
I'd definitely go for four equal pieces of thin plasticard, and glue them together to form the general shape.
Of course that would give you sharp edges, where those in the original are slightly rounded.
You may fill the plasticard shape with liquid resin and let it harden.
Next, you can either try to sand away the edges, or remove the plasticard shell altogether (leaving you the resin inside) which you can easily sand and shape. That's probably the approach I would try.
From practice, I know that this would take two or three trials, possibly making me change the whole approach as I go along. But I'm sure the above approach would allow me to make the rough shape in an hour or so. Crafting and adding the other details... I think we're talking an extra hour here, but it can be done before you go to bed.
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Posted: Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 11:11 PM UTC
I know you got card stock, and this is probably going to be just a one time deal isn't it, cause that thing isn't an inch tall and even a quarter inch wide at the bottom, and that top piece resembles some of the tank return pullys I've seen.
What I'd do is something like glue a piece of sprue at the top and cut out card stock the size to glue to it to form your cone, with the sprue sticking up to form the top to put the round piece on, then glue a little door on the bottom, cause I don't think your going to get a working door in less then a quarter inch of room on the bottom. then putty your corners rounded, and glue on your other pieces.
Let us know what you ended up doing if you could.I'd appreciate it
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Posted: Friday, March 26, 2004 - 01:32 AM UTC
Sorry....I've gotta chuckle. As small as this thing is, you could cut it out of a small piece of Basswood in about (literally) 15 seconds using a razor blade/knife.
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Posted: Friday, March 26, 2004 - 01:35 AM UTC
I whipped him up a template...... it's in Eran's hands Now!!!!!
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Posted: Friday, March 26, 2004 - 03:50 AM UTC
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Sorry....I've gotta chuckle. As small as this thing is, you could cut it out of a small piece of Basswood in about (literally) 15 seconds using a razor blade/knife.
Tread.
:) - no other comment...
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Posted: Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:18 AM UTC
Would you be willing to show everybody else what you done in 15 seconds.
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Posted: Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 07:31 PM UTC
Ekaufman,
Sorry about the lateness of this reply as this represents probably my 3rd. visit to the scratchbulders forum. This is a great forum at any rate as it really gets the creative juices flowing (sorry if that sounded like something out of a wet dream) especially since if I have to scratch build everything given the lack of model shops here. At any rate the photo you showed looks like a mast of some modern day ships (1:600 or 1:700). You might want to give it a try cannablizing any old ship models that have been put to pasture.
It actually looks like the radar mast on my olde Airfix HMS Fearless I think and if its just for a MG mount for 1:35, you could actually add on or trim off to get the desired effect.
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